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Old 08-23-2019, 02:32 PM
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Very strange to get a Conditional job offer then the next day can lost to an imperfect test.
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Gonna need a bit more context...
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Very strange to get a Conditional job offer then the next day can lost to an imperfect test.
Drug test?
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Well at one of the Big 3 an applicant is prepared to go through a 2 day interview. The 1st day is a battery of tests and HR interview. Later that day the applicant is told you cut the mustard or you don’t. If the applicant does then a CJO is on the table. The applicant is told the next day everything that must be accomplished. Another test which could be subjective in nature. Plus background and other things. If for some reason on this test, it doesn’t come out correct according to one person, you take it again. Then the applicant is whisked into a room to talk about themself. Of course the applicant is nervous due to a stun of retaking something that is so crazy in nature and really may have a misunderstanding of how this test is worded. Then the applicant is reviewed by a panel of 3. Sitting on pins and needles because the applicant is in a holding pattern that they have worked so hard to get. Some days later it is determined the applicant is not a good fit. The applicant is not talked to by the panel of 3 and is only told they don’t cut the mustard by some person who didn’t even determine the applicant was not fit. It would be better for the applicant to not even get an offer until all of the testing is completed. There are several received an offer in the past that didn’t even take such a test. Wonder how many would have the same kind of issue. The process is very unfair and the applicant has no recourse for an explanation. Feel bad for the applicant knowing that this test is not 100%, but there are other fish in the sea.
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If all the tests aren’t taken there should be no CJO. It’s unethical!
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I’ll be honest; I don’t really understand what happened in this story or if this is even you or “someone else.”

I do appreciate the idioms in the story, especially the “cut the mustard” one.

Sorry it didn’t work out for whoever this is. Like you said, more fish in the sea. Don’t dwell on this stuff.
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Sorry you didn't get the job, we all work hard for that moment. Keep going for it!
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Originally Posted by Helperto EL View Post
Well at one of the Big 3 an applicant is prepared to go through a 2 day interview. The 1st day is a battery of tests and HR interview. Later that day the applicant is told you cut the mustard or you don’t. If the applicant does then a CJO is on the table. The applicant is told the next day everything that must be accomplished. Another test which could be subjective in nature. Plus background and other things. If for some reason on this test, it doesn’t come out correct according to one person, you take it again. Then the applicant is whisked into a room to talk about themself. Of course the applicant is nervous due to a stun of retaking something that is so crazy in nature and really may have a misunderstanding of how this test is worded. Then the applicant is reviewed by a panel of 3. Sitting on pins and needles because the applicant is in a holding pattern that they have worked so hard to get. Some days later it is determined the applicant is not a good fit. The applicant is not talked to by the panel of 3 and is only told they don’t cut the mustard by some person who didn’t even determine the applicant was not fit. It would be better for the applicant to not even get an offer until all of the testing is completed. There are several received an offer in the past that didn’t even take such a test. Wonder how many would have the same kind of issue. The process is very unfair and the applicant has no recourse for an explanation. Feel bad for the applicant knowing that this test is not 100%, but there are other fish in the sea.

First, there’s no need to hide behind a fictional person. Either own this as your experience or state clearly it’s someone close to you.

Second, if you didn’t know this was a potential part of the selection process then you weren’t fully prepared; especially if you were caught unawares about a specific test. This part of the experience falls on you.

Third, no company has a legal obligation to explain why you weren’t hired so I’m not sure where you got that expectation. All that can be done is self-reflection so you have two choices. You can either own up to your mistakes with the testing or go on ****ed off at the process. The latter isn’t something you can control and change so my simple advice is to hold your head up high, deep dive into what the possible mistakes were and keep charging towards your goals.

Best of luck to you (or whomever).


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Originally Posted by Helperto EL View Post
If all the tests aren’t taken there should be no CJO. It’s unethical!
I don't see any ethics issues here. The "C" in CJO stands for "Conditional" You didn't meet one of the conditions. Therefore no more job offer.
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I’ll pass it along GP, I don’t believe there was any reference to legality. I still think it’s unethical. I know the person was prepared. I agree owning it is important and it has been passed along. Agreed no need to cry like a whinny baby! All is good and this person is fine. I had to vent due to the frustration after hearing this story!
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