OnGuard!! please help me
01-01-2020, 10:10 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by BangDingOw
I did 3 year at piedmont, 13 at skywest and now on year 4 at delta. So thats 20. I have never flown with someone that clicks over and says "you are on guard" I know people like to blame us delta guys for being guard clowns but i have not seen it. Who TF are these peeps clicking on and blasting "on guard?" You think its like 3 guys?, I know if I flew with somone here at delta that did that i would educate him/her to never do this again.
That’s a function of guys stroking out if number 2 isn’t on 121.5 the instant we are done with the ramp frequency.
What’s the point of monitoring guard on the ground anyway?
01-01-2020, 11:13 AM
#32
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This could probably go on Tool of the day as well.
A captain I flew with was either sleeping half the trip, reading or just not paying much attention to his job.
He always kept 121.5 on number two radio. He could be dead a sleep and as soon as someone said something on guard he popped right up and made it known they were saying it on guard. Total tool.
A captain I flew with was either sleeping half the trip, reading or just not paying much attention to his job.
He always kept 121.5 on number two radio. He could be dead a sleep and as soon as someone said something on guard he popped right up and made it known they were saying it on guard. Total tool.
01-01-2020, 03:55 PM
#33
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I was flying a rare domestic trip four months ago. As we left EWR (notorious for what I think is punks on the ground screwing around on Guard), I heard us being called on Guard by Departure.
We had a stuck mic. First time ever in an airliner for me, although I’ve had a fair number in tactical jets.
Sure enough...the glareshield mic button was stuck IN. I jiggled it and got it out; I had to break my habit pattern all the way to LAX to use the yoke button...something I had never done before.
THIS is what Guard is for, and I was thankful I had it loud enough to hear (and that we weren’t saying anything embarrassing!)
Ironically, it is often so bad south of EWR, that one has to turn Guard down or off because of the clowns making it a mockery.
We had a stuck mic. First time ever in an airliner for me, although I’ve had a fair number in tactical jets.
Sure enough...the glareshield mic button was stuck IN. I jiggled it and got it out; I had to break my habit pattern all the way to LAX to use the yoke button...something I had never done before.
THIS is what Guard is for, and I was thankful I had it loud enough to hear (and that we weren’t saying anything embarrassing!)
Ironically, it is often so bad south of EWR, that one has to turn Guard down or off because of the clowns making it a mockery.
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 01-01-2020 at 06:23 PM.
01-01-2020, 04:59 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
FAA maybe not. But FCC/FBI/DOJ investigating a crime? Sure they can. CVR is not the same kind of privileged communication as lawyer/client privilege.
Intentionally misusing the RF spectrum is an intentional crime, it's covered by federal criminal law, not the FARs.
And it doesn't matter one whit what your union contract says about it
I like having guard up so I don't go NORDO. Don't want to do paperwork or get a private tactical airshow just so some childish dooshbags can get their jollies off. And who knows, there might be an actual emergency. I have on two occasions in the course of my career heard pilots helping another pilot in distress via guard.
Intentionally misusing the RF spectrum is an intentional crime, it's covered by federal criminal law, not the FARs.
And it doesn't matter one whit what your union contract says about it
I like having guard up so I don't go NORDO. Don't want to do paperwork or get a private tactical airshow just so some childish dooshbags can get their jollies off. And who knows, there might be an actual emergency. I have on two occasions in the course of my career heard pilots helping another pilot in distress via guard.
