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Old 12-28-2019, 10:30 PM   #1  
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Default OnGuard!! please help me

I did 3 year at piedmont, 13 at skywest and now on year 4 at delta. So thats 20. I have never flown with someone that clicks over and says "you are on guard" I know people like to blame us delta guys for being guard clowns but i have not seen it. Who TF are these peeps clicking on and blasting "on guard?" You think its like 3 guys?, I know if I flew with somone here at delta that did that i would educate him/her to never do this again.
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Old 12-29-2019, 12:59 AM   #3  
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I did 3 year at piedmont, 13 at skywest and now on year 4 at delta. So thats 20. I have never flown with someone that clicks over and says "you are on guard" I know people like to blame us delta guys for being guard clowns but i have not seen it. Who TF are these peeps clicking on and blasting "on guard?" You think its like 3 guys?, I know if I flew with somone here at delta that did that i would educate him/her to never do this again.
The fact that the people who are the problem like to say something on guard about it being Delta should be your first clue that they probably aren't Delta pilots. Honestly, 99% of them are probably RJ captains. CAs who don't support it won't let an FO do it without giving them hell, so even if an FO does it a CA is part of the problem by allowing it. Likewise, what are the chances of two mainline pilots being on the same flight deck and both accepting it? Honestly, I'm shocked that you actually think anyone seriously thinks it's Delta pilots.

I flew with one CA when I was at the regionals who really started to go all in with it and I called him out on it then and there, but by his reaction most FOs were afraid to say anything.

Regardless, it's just a matter of time until this problem is resolved. A fed on the JS told me last year that the FAA had plans for DF equipment on the center antennas so eventually they will be able to triangulate and identify the offending aircraft and violate the crew. It's starting to be viewed as a safety hazard since so many crews are turning guard down or off because of it (as well as center controllers being distracted). I'm sure they would only be able to get aircraft without another too close by, but I at least hope that it's really happening. First violated crew should shut the whole thing down really quick.
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I havenít flown with a single person at the regionals who does this. When I flew Part 91 I knew a guy who did it though. Honestly I donít even think itís 121 guys most of the time.
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I havenít flown with a single person at the regionals who does this. When I flew Part 91 I knew a guy who did it though. Honestly I donít even think itís 121 guys most of the time.
I flew with 1 or 2 PSA captains that did it but theyíve flowed to American already so we can just blame American guys now. With that said itís usually just one or two immature guys that seem to be the vocal minority on guard.
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I flew with 1 or 2 PSA captains that did it but theyíve flowed to American already so we can just blame American guys now. With that said itís usually just one or two immature guys that seem to be the vocal minority on guard.
Had an fo at PSA who's hands moved at the speed of light to switch coms so he could yell "on guard" and then laugh hysterically.
After the first day I had to have "the talk".

Dunno what the desire to tell everyone they're on guard is.

I do understand if someone is accidentally transmitting repeatedly on guard giving them a heads up.
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I donít understand the problem with saying guard. We all put ramp in the back up of 2 and forget to switch it. Some wads even say cleared to the gate. Now coming into DCA with cats and other crap is annoying. I have no problem with saying guard in a short quick fashioned like how Canada controllers reply roger.


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Had an fo at PSA who's hands moved at the speed of light to switch coms so he could yell "on guard" and then laugh hysterically.
After the first day I had to have "the talk".

Dunno what the desire to tell everyone they're on guard is.

I do understand if someone is accidentally transmitting repeatedly on guard giving them a heads up.
Yeah, a couple of CTAF calls on guard is warranted. But this is getting out of hand. I heard someone broadcast music the other day and someone asked purposely what the score of the game was.
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Rarely but occasionally someone keys the mic on the wrong freq. Unintentional, and it's worth a collateral laugh. I don't mind playoff scores personally, although you can just get that from center.

The meowing is just stooopid. It was funny for about a wek after Super Troopers was released, but that was a good while ago

The most annoying thing is the "on guard"s, because those idiots do it when people are actually using guard for it's purpose, getting someone back on their freq or an actual emergency. I have actually heard, on two occasions, emergency GA aircraft in serious distress and people trying to help them getting stomped all over by "guard nazis".

I'm certain 90% of the "guard nazis" are doing it to make people *think* someone is being anal, it cannot possibly all be DL.

There are several things I like about flying in the west and not having to listen to that crap is one of them.
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Agreed.
It isnít the actual informative Ďyouíre on guardí call.
It is the childish hijinks that come after.
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