UAL/DAL/AAL and New Contracts
01-15-2020, 01:27 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Same at AA. Delta profit sharing and 150m/year in QOL improvements have been offered by the company but it isn’t close to what the pilot group will accept.
not even close to the same thing.
01-15-2020, 02:43 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by El Peso
To be completely clear, we did not at all get offered a Delta profit sharing plan. Yes the cut of earnings is the same, but the pool of employees sharing that cut is about 50k employees larger with us. AAs offer includes eagle. Delta only splits with mainline delta.
not even close to the same thing.
not even close to the same thing.
01-15-2020, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Agreed. Get as much you can, WHILE YOU CAN.
It just makes ANY give/“concession” painful if (WHEN) it happens.
One of Jeffrey’s lasting legacies, he can run us like a regional staffing wise.
Its been proven, it’s simply “cheaper” understaffed I’m busy months and pay premium vs well staffed, then over staffed once busy months come.
When you take into account the big picture cost per pilot, etc.
It just makes ANY give/“concession” painful if (WHEN) it happens.
One of Jeffrey’s lasting legacies, he can run us like a regional staffing wise.
Its been proven, it’s simply “cheaper” understaffed I’m busy months and pay premium vs well staffed, then over staffed once busy months come.
When you take into account the big picture cost per pilot, etc.
01-15-2020, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
gotta love pulling the ladder up from the guys doing 6 legs a day making money for AA
You mean I should go back to AA, DL, and UA and politely ask them for a portion of their profits since I made money for all of them?
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01-15-2020, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
To be completely clear, we did not at all get offered a Delta profit sharing plan. Yes the cut of earnings is the same, but the pool of employees sharing that cut is about 50k employees larger with us. AAs offer includes eagle. Delta only splits with mainline delta.
not even close to the same thing.
not even close to the same thing.
01-16-2020, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R
You mean I should go back to AA, DL, and UA and politely ask them for a portion of their profits since I made money for all of them?
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01-16-2020, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
To be completely clear, we did not at all get offered a Delta profit sharing plan. Yes the cut of earnings is the same, but the pool of employees sharing that cut is about 50k employees larger with us. AAs offer includes eagle. Delta only splits with mainline delta.
not even close to the same thing.
not even close to the same thing.
01-16-2020, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
correct me if I’m wrong but the lions share of AA regional flying is done by wholly owed subsidiaries that only do AA flying with AA pax.
It is certainly a majority, but receiving profit sharing as a regional pilot is not a common thing. As previously stated, Endeavor does not get PS and they only do flying for Delta. I’m not sure about Horizon and Alaska.
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01-17-2020, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R
It is certainly a majority, but receiving profit sharing as a regional pilot is not a common thing. As previously stated, Endeavor does not get PS and they only do flying for Delta. I’m not sure about Horizon and Alaska.
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