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Salukidawg 03-16-2020 10:30 AM

US Airlines’ Request $50 Billion Bailout
 
Should lead to some interesting philosophical discussions.

https://thehill.com/business-a-lobby...assistance-for

Simpsons 03-16-2020 10:48 AM

Nasty socialism

Mesabah 03-16-2020 10:50 AM

If banks, who made terrible investments, get trillions and trillions of dollars, ~$32 trillion since 2007, then why not every industry?

Name User 03-16-2020 10:53 AM

Pipe dream

And if it takes $50b to keep operating, we are a lot worse off than they are letting on.

rickair7777 03-16-2020 10:57 AM

Better to ask early, manage expectations.

Airlines (like banks) are key infrastructure, economic aid is inevitable.

I don't use the term "bailout" because this is not like the situation with the banks, who set themselves up to fail and then got bailed out by the taxpayers. Airlines are strictly victims in this, no fault that I can see... most of them are pretty solvent in terms of normal economic cycles.

OOfff 03-16-2020 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 3000392)
Pipe dream

And if it takes $50b to keep operating, we are a lot worse off than they are letting on.

I think 50b is just the first phase. We are worse off than anyone can even know

cezzna 03-16-2020 11:06 AM

The FED suspended the rule that banks have 10% reserves, and the FED was the only buyer of the recent 30 year bond auction. The FED will bail everyone out, Smoke and mirrors now.

SonicFlyer 03-16-2020 11:26 AM

Unconstitutional

highfarfast 03-16-2020 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3000399)
Better to ask early, manage expectations.

Airlines (like banks) are key infrastructure, economic aid is inevitable.

I don't use the term "bailout" because this is not like the situation with the banks, who set themselves up to fail and then got bailed out by the taxpayers. Airlines are strictly victims in this, no fault that I can see... most of them are pretty solvent in terms of normal economic cycles.

True this. And I'd like to add that government mandated bans are part of the cause of the current financial situation in the airline industry so government should have a hand in reparation.

I'm not sure it will happen though. From what I can tell on non-aviation centered commentary, the general public is sour on the idea of 'bailouts' and while we'll say this isn't the same thing, it's what THEY will see... along with their image of a rich, spoiled, entitled pilots who deserves no help.

Slaphappy 03-16-2020 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Simpsons (Post 3000389)
Nasty socialism

You don't know what socialism then.

Either way this house of cards will fall one day, sooner rather than later. We'll be worse off than Greece, especially since we won't have some childless chancellor I'm Germany to bail us out.


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