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Old 03-21-2020, 11:41 PM
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That’s it?
Well my buddy has a real problem. At last count he had 24 guns and 100,000 (not a typo) rounds in a storage unit. I plan to stay with him when the End of Days is upon us (which, I must say, I was not expecting to actually happen this year...)
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:46 PM
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I just don't see why anyone needs an AR-15 with a 20 round mag.
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I mean it’s cool for that retro Vietnam rifleman/LRRP/ranger/Force Recon look. But we all know a 30 round is where it’s at.
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No Layoffs. Small reduction and some asked for voluntary leaves of absence. Consumer confidence and travel back by Aug. Mainline will take 1.5 yrs to recover in the international market.
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Old 03-22-2020, 05:06 AM
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Honestly, you just don't see much debate over gun laws here. I can't recall any major ballot propositions regarding guns that people have been asked to vote on. Most of the laws (and they are frequently ridiculous, and poorly written) are simply dreamed up in Sacramento and then passed by the Democratic supermajority. It irks me, but here's how I look at it.
​​​​​​ First, nobody really needs a semiautomatic assault rifle. As we have seen all too many times, they're all too easy for deranged people to take many lives with. I mean, would we be comfortable allowing truck-mounted M60s? I doubt it. For hunting, a long rifle works just fine. For home self-defense, a shotgun is the weapon of choice. Maaaaayyyyybe a handgun, if you're trained and proficient with small arms in close quarters (maybe 1 percent of handgun owners are.) And for general target practice and proficiency, handguns are great.

I just don't see why anyone needs an AR-15 with a 20 round mag.

That said, the California laws are often so poorly written that it's clear they were written by people who've never been around guns.

Anyhow. While there are certainly plenty of people in CA who think guns should be banned, they are by far the minority. When Obama was elected, all we heard for years was that he was going to 'take our guns'. His administration suggested nothing of the sort.

Now, off to stock up on some buckshot for the coming flupocalypse. If everything goes south fast, ammunition will be the currency of the land, along with food, water, medical supplies, and alcohol. I should've built that bunker in Idaho while I still had the chance :-0
Look at Virginia this past Jan, were the citizens asked to vote? = No, just a renegade politician jamming a proposed Senate Bill (SB16 and others) down the throat of law abiding citizens. This is Gun confiscation period. Anything that resembled that AR-15 with a 20 round mag - Poof your a criminal or a felon as they specifically within hours. Note: 30 round mag is the standard for which it was made; therefore, not a high capacity mag. And, your state has “bullet buttons” as one unique measure to oppress your rights. No, NoBama would not come to your door, it’s sliding bills behind the scenes is how they try to sneak past the patriot masses and it’s not like he didn’t try - their is a resistance. The VA Governor actually threatening Law Enforcement officials jobs if they would not follow this order to its fulfillment of Gun confiscation.. Within a couple of months, VA’s cities/counties rose up with their law enforcement officials and declared themselves “2nd Amendment Sanctuary Counties”, first 10, then 20, 30,... eventually 105 cities/counties declared themselves 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries. The Governor also dictated he would use the National Guard to enforce his bill if LE did not comply. He obviously does not know that we (retired now) are citizen soldiers and his major problem is: “I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic...” is within our oath of duty/service which is above any Governor (or President, Gov official, etc.) to include the oath to each specific state under which we serve. Imagine having your own designated “militia” legally turn on you. It didn’t come to fruition because they sobered up regarding the turmoil that would ensue. They will try again until our rights in many ways are eroded and you become the sheep they want us to be.

Law abiding citizens of VA were not ignorant regarding their heritage. For Gods sake their Flag says it all: motto " Sic Semper Tyrannis" – "Thus Always to Tyrants". Adopted in 1776, imagine that and the importance of that date. Flag literally has the Goddess Virtue (who is holding a sword and a spear) standing upon the King of England’s chest with his crown fallen of his head, so basically death to all tyranny or tyrants.


You mentioned “semiautomatic assault rifle” very confusing. The overwhelming millions of AR-15s are not assault rifles. An assault rifle is not black, specifically semiautomatic or scary. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership. An assault rifle by definition has this capability: Selective fire - means the capability of a weapon to be adjusted to fire in semi-automatic, burst mode, and/or fully automatic firing mode.

Shotguns a very good no doubt, but your going to need more capability (an excuse for more guns) to venture East of your state border, let alone the Deep South. I do like your Idaho Bunker endeavor, your coming around very nicely.


Well, maybe I’m wrong - Biden said go for the “double barreled shotgun” to his wife... 2 shots? Sorry, I need more than that when selecting a street sweeper of choice. But in a Post Apocalyptic World, Big Joe will either challenge you to pushups or beat you up outside so you do need a Black Rifle after all. “You know, that thing!” - Biden, the Declaration of Independence attempt..... and we’re right back to VA’s Flag. Off topic, but some things must be defined.
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Pro gun liberals exist. They are unicorns, but they exist. CA is actually quite red, outside the cities.
MA, IL and NY fall into this as well. But the major cities can outvote the rest of the state, so you get what they have.
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Old 03-22-2020, 05:21 AM
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Exactly, Richmond and the surrounding areas of Fairfax dictate such efforts of regulation. Proud of those VA cities/counties for standing up for themselves and the rest of the Patriots throughout this country. If Va falls, others won’t be far behind unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by Turbosina View Post
Honestly, you just don't see much debate over gun laws here. I can't recall any major ballot propositions regarding guns that people have been asked to vote on. Most of the laws (and they are frequently ridiculous, and poorly written) are simply dreamed up in Sacramento and then passed by the Democratic supermajority. It irks me, but here's how I look at it.
​​​​​​ First, nobody really needs a semiautomatic assault rifle. As we have seen all too many times, they're all too easy for deranged people to take many lives with. I mean, would we be comfortable allowing truck-mounted M60s? I doubt it. For hunting, a long rifle works just fine. For home self-defense, a shotgun is the weapon of choice. Maaaaayyyyybe a handgun, if you're trained and proficient with small arms in close quarters (maybe 1 percent of handgun owners are.) And for general target practice and proficiency, handguns are great.

I just don't see why anyone needs an AR-15 with a 20 round mag.

That said, the California laws are often so poorly written that it's clear they were written by people who've never been around guns.

Anyhow. While there are certainly plenty of people in CA who think guns should be banned, they are by far the minority. When Obama was elected, all we heard for years was that he was going to 'take our guns'. His administration suggested nothing of the sort.

Now, off to stock up on some buckshot for the coming flupocalypse. If everything goes south fast, ammunition will be the currency of the land, along with food, water, medical supplies, and alcohol. I should've built that bunker in Idaho while I still had the chance :-0
Not even going to get started on this post not the time or place.
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Just Curious, where do you guys get the idea from that we Americans will start shooting at each other when money runs low? When did that happen last?

So far, people in my neighborhood that we don’t even know have been knocking on our door to make sure my wife has what she needs for the baby.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ckpiling-guns/

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Originally Posted by Aeirum View Post
Just Curious, where do you guys get the idea from that we Americans will start shooting at each other when money runs low? When did that happen last?

So far, people in my neighborhood that we don’t even know have been knocking on our door to make sure my wife has what she needs for the baby.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ckpiling-guns/
it’s not because of my neighbors.
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