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Old 03-27-2020, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator View Post
Masks and gloves are not effective the way most people use them. Putting them on leaving the house and collecting five hours of germs, all the while touching your face, glasses and kids and others without disinfecting or washing thoroughly is not as effective as washing thoroughly and frequently. All you do is accumulate every germ you’re in contact with and spread it to everything you touch.

medical personnel change their equipment frequently, between each potential exposure, and wash often.

no agency or government has recommended masks and gloves except for those who are high risk, exposed or positive, or medically necessary. And in those cases you shouldn’t even be out.
Gloves allow you to dump 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol on your hands at frequent intervals without destroying the skin. And from the ALPA website "According to ALPA’s aeromedical advisor, Dr. Quay Snyder, alcohol-based disinfectants could, in theory, be absorbed through the skin and create a positive alcohol urine test" though the **** and blood tests would be negative. So gloves aren't effective if you're a moron, but there are good reasons for wearing them, or at least having a pair with.
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Originally Posted by at6d View Post
Costco has banned samples.
right....that’s what started that discussion
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Old 03-28-2020, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
To my knowledge a P95 filters everything a N95 does plus protects against oil particles. Good for China virus and fume events while sitting in the back.
You're possibly backwards. N95 protect against saw dust. P95 protects against the smaller stuff. If I'm wrong I apologize.
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Old 03-28-2020, 06:32 AM
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N95 AND R95 RESPIRATORS - THE DIFFERENCE?

N95 AND R95 RESPIRATOR DILEMMA

Anyone who has researched disposable respirators has faced the dilemma between choosing an N95 or R95 disposable respirator. Questions arise: What is really the difference between the two? Which one should I be using? (We'll talk about a P95 shortly).

The N95 and R95 nomenclature originate with, and are approvals from, NIOSH. NIOSH is the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. It is the government agency that tests the respirators to verify they actually filter what they are marketed to filter.

With respect to the N95 and R95 respirators, both are confirmed by NIOSH to have a filtration efficiency of at least 95%.


DIFFERENCE BETWEEN N95 AND R95 RESPIRATORS

The difference between the two pertains to their resistance to oil-based particles.

3M puts it like this, "Under the NIOSH classification system, 'N' rated respirators can only be used for particles that do not contain oils. But, 'R' rated respirators may be used in environments that contain oily particles."

This means that respirators with a NIOSH rating of "R" are have a broader spectrum of protection and are in this sense a better mask. "N" rated disposable respirators offer no protection from oily particles.


SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A P95 AND R95?

We've seen that the N95 does not filter oily particles but the R95 does. But what is a P95 respirator? NIOSH has two designations for oily-based particle disposable respirators - R95 and P95. The "R" rating is said to be "somewhat resistant to oil". The "P" rating is said to be "strongly resistant to oil".

In other words, the R95 has an 8 hour service life. The P95 has a 40 hour or 30 day service life (whichever comes first). You can read more about this in the following NIOSH article: NIOSH-Approved Particulate Filtering Facepiece Respirators.

To sum up: a N95 disposable respirator does not protect against oily particles; a R95 does; a P95 also does and has a longer service life than the R95. We sell a 3M P95 here: Model 8271.


WHAT IS AN OIL-BASED PARTICLE?

When oil-based products, like some solvents or pesticides, are sprayed, the oil particles become airborne. These airborne oil particles are oil-based particles. The SDS for the product you are using should make this clear.


SHOULD I USE AN N95 OR R95 (OR P95)?

Now this question can be answered and understood. Of course, the simplest thing to do is use an R95 even when there are no oil-based particles present. Why? Because it does everything the N95 does, plus oil-based particles. Generally, however, R95 respirators are more expensive.

We also briefly mentioned the P95 designation. Like the R95, it also handles oil-based particulates with the same 95% efficiency rating. Its advantage is that it protects for a longer period of time - a 40 hour service life instead of an 8 hour service life. It is generally more expensive that both the N95 and R95.
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