If passed no furloughs until 30 Sept
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If passed no furloughs until 30 Sept
Airlines to get loans, cash-for-equity bailouts
- Struggling U.S. airlines would be eligible to receive federal loans and direct cash assistance if they are willing to give an option for an ownership stake to the government. The program allocates $25 billion to passenger carriers and $3 billion to airline contractors providing ground staff such as caterers, while cargo haulers would see $4 billion.
- The addition of direct cash relief, earmarked for payrolls, was sought by airline and industry unions, which feared massive job losses if loans were the only option. The legislation does not include emissions limits for airplanes that were sought by House Democrats, Senator Pat Toomey, a Pennsylvania Republican, said on a press call.
- Other transportation winners include rail and transit operators. Amtrak would get $1.02 billion to cover coronavirus-related revenue losses and support state-funded routes.
- Here is the controversial section on "air carrier or contractor" bailouts:
- No surprises here either: an aircraft company getting bailout funds will not be allowed to fire workers or cut wages, nor pursue M&A or engage in buybacks and dividends.
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Is it likely the airlines will take this? The cost of keeping everyone on the payroll without cutting pay rates for 6 months, when only a small portion of your fleet is flying, and you have few passengers has to be astronomical. I guess if you thought everything was going to pick up shortly it would be worth it, but if it doesn’t, I’m wondering if this is too costly for them to accept.
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Is it likely the airlines will take this? The cost of keeping everyone on the payroll without cutting pay rates for 6 months, when only a small portion of your fleet is flying, and you have few passengers has to be astronomical. I guess if you thought everything was going to pick up shortly it would be worth it, but if it doesn’t, I’m wondering if this is too costly for them to accept.
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I’m sure there are far more expenses and losses than just payroll. Plus they have to give the government equity and abide by other restrictions. I’m not certain the airlines will accept this, I wouldn’t put it past them to just furlough, and declare bankruptcy when they need to.
I am merely asking the question of what people think they will do. I have no idea.🙁
I am merely asking the question of what people think they will do. I have no idea.🙁
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They will take the money. What they are getting is what they basically asked for in that letter they sent to Congress
What CEO wants to be remembered as the guy to turn down free money to pay his employees instead said **** it just put them on the street
What CEO wants to be remembered as the guy to turn down free money to pay his employees instead said **** it just put them on the street
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Yep. It’s what the asked for, and basically the conditions they promised.
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What does no reducing pay rates mean? Is it talking about actual pay rates or is it saying we’ll make the same take home pay as before regardless of not flying with parked planes? I mean that’s a good deal if true but a big taxpayer waste.
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Does provision 2 prevent consolidation before September 2021 or is that strictly in reference to buy backs?
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To be eligible for financial assistance under this subtitle, an air carrier or contractor shall enter into an agreement with the Secretary, or otherwise certify in such form and manner as the Secretary shall prescribe, that the air carrier or contractor shall— (1) refrain from conducting involuntary furloughs or reducing pay rates and benefits until September 30, 2020
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