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Old 03-25-2020, 05:32 AM
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Seems the grants are earmarked for worker pay.
Fantastic if true!! You have a source?
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Old 03-25-2020, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Aldo Raine View Post
Seems the grants are earmarked for worker pay.
The government is going to pay for the SIL lines, it’s not 100% of pay apparently.
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Old 03-25-2020, 05:44 AM
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From CNBC:

As part of the deal, airlines will be prohibited from stock buybacks and CEO bonuses, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer wrote in a letter Wednesday to Democratic senators. The duration of that ban could not be immediately determined.

A senior administration official told CNBC that airlines will not need to pay back the direct grants they receive, though the government will take some equity share. Companies must also agree to refrain from layoffs through a date later this year.
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Old 03-25-2020, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
The government is going to pay for the SIL lines, it’s not 100% of pay apparently.
What does that mean? Thx
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Old 03-25-2020, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900 View Post
From CNBC:

As part of the deal, airlines will be prohibited from stock buybacks and CEO bonuses, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer wrote in a letter Wednesday to Democratic senators. The duration of that ban could not be immediately determined.

A senior administration official told CNBC that airlines will not need to pay back the direct grants they receive, though the government will take some equity share. Companies must also agree to refrain from layoffs through a date later this year.
Are regional airlines not included in this then? Furlough letters have already been sent out to some from what I’ve heard.
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Old 03-25-2020, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BangDingOw View Post
Fantastic if true!! You have a source?
You mean the posted article everybody else is referencing?
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Originally Posted by PiperPower View Post
Are regional airlines not included in this then? Furlough letters have already been sent out to some from what I’ve heard.
I would almost guarantee regional airlines will not be included, although we make 80% less than a mainline pilot
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Old 03-25-2020, 06:11 AM
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I would almost guarantee regional airlines will not be included, although we make 80% less than a mainline pilot
Yes, regional airlines are not included.
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Old 03-25-2020, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PiperPower View Post
Are regional airlines not included in this then? Furlough letters have already been sent out to some from what I’ve heard.
Key point: No airline would actually be required to take/grants loans.

Some regionals may even opt to liquidate sooner rather than later to preserve shareholder assets if they assume the cost and risk of trying to fight through this is too high. This scenario is really only likely for non-publicly traded regionals... if a single owner/family has tangible assets in the business (especially cash or anything else disposable), they might prefer to take the money and run rather than try to fight through it and risk peeing it all away. Case study #1: Hulas.

The aid offer might not apply to furloughs which already occured, ie maybe they can take the grants/loans and the strings only apply to current active employees. That's something that may need to get worked out, but I suspect worst case ANYONE furloughed due to COVID will be covered by some sort of reduced pay or enhanced unemployment benefit provision, even if the furlough occurred before the aid package.

CPZ/TSA... they were getting shut down anyway, but might be able to make a claim since the process appears to have been expedited due to COVID.
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Old 03-25-2020, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
Yes, regional airlines are not included.
How are they not included? I have not read it yet.

Does the fine-print say "Major airlines only, regionals not eligible"

So Sunny is eligible but SKW is not?

Are eligible airlines specifically spelled out by name?
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