Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
(Post 3017045)
Where are you getting this nonsense from? :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3017032)
I'm not taking a position either way, but it does seem foolish to spend 25 billion to just delay the inevitable. We're all flying around empty airplanes and losing money on every flight. At some point, we need to realize that it isn't sustainable, right?
To add: airlines with simple fleet plans have a much easier task ahead. Frontier, Spirit, Southwest and even JetBlue or Alaska might decide its just easier to not take the money and go their own way. That money is coming with some onerous terms for management and just like Ford in 2008 decide its just easier if they don't strap themselves to Uncle Sam. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3017065)
No this is a real concern. If your employer doesn't need cash NOW, they might take a longer-term view.
Again, not impossible but personally I can’t wrap my mind around furloughs over grant money. Now furloughs after September......definitely a good possibility. |
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
(Post 3017081)
Now I’m no SWA cheerleader (and that’s a gross understatement), but I’d be shocked if they went for furloughs instead of the grants. It would utterly destroy employee moral and what the Kompany has stood for.
Again, not impossible but personally I can’t wrap my mind around furloughs over grant money. Now furloughs after September......definitely a good possibility. I think it comes down to how much of the pie each carrier will be allocated. Don't know if that will be based on a fixed metric like ASM's, or if it will be need based. If it's the later I suspect some furloughs might happen at non-big-three majors. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3017087)
I agree they really don't want to go there, but what if furloughs leaves them $2B in cash on 01 Oct and grants + no furloughs leave them $0.8B?
I think it comes down to how much of the pie each carrier will be allocated. Don't know if that will be based on a fixed metric like ASM's, or if it will be need based. If it's the later I suspect some furloughs might happen at non-big-three majors. |
Originally Posted by Peacock
(Post 3017094)
The grants are the payroll from the same period last year
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3017128)
Is that in the law, or policy from Treasury? Also know if that includes the cost of bennies?
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Originally Posted by Flubber
(Post 3017170)
It's in the language: salary and benefits, based on the amounts paid to employees 4/1/2019 thru 9/30/2019.
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Originally Posted by Peacock
(Post 3017094)
The grants are the payroll from the same period last year
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Originally Posted by SAABoroowski
(Post 3017188)
too bad my airline grew significantly since then and our payroll costs are much higher
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