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Old 03-31-2020, 03:53 AM
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80% of people won’t even know they have been infected. And the death rate in New York has been lower than forecast, much less than an exponential climb. New York City and New York State have kept good statistics, they are available online.

As the NYC statistics show, this is a virus that almost exclusively kills sick people:

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/down...ary-deaths.pdf

Those with underlying conditions can sit at home in isolation and protect themselves. The rest of us should be working.

The potential for economic depression and all the problems that come with it is simply not worth the risk. Repressing everyone equally is an absurdity with a virus that is so specific in who it impacts.
Just one thing, “underlying conditions” could be anything, how many in our country are obese or Diabetic???


I’m not advocating for a lockdown longer than necessary, believe me. I got the Rona and had really very mild symptoms but it does seem to take out others in just a few days
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Originally Posted by SAABoroowski View Post
Just one thing, “underlying conditions” could be anything, how many in our country are obese or Diabetic???


I’m not advocating for a lockdown longer than necessary, believe me. I got the Rona and had really very mild symptoms but it does seem to take out others in just a few days
It lists the underlying conditions below with a *.

While obesity causes many of them, it’s not listed.
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Originally Posted by michael525Bdo View Post
It lists the underlying conditions below with a *.

While obesity causes many of them, it’s not listed.
I didn’t see that. Thanks for clarification.
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Old 03-31-2020, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter View Post
80% of people won’t even know they have been infected. And the death rate in New York has been lower than forecast, much less than an exponential climb. New York City and New York State have kept good statistics, they are available online.

As the NYC statistics show, this is a virus that almost exclusively kills sick people:

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/down...ary-deaths.pdf

Those with underlying conditions can sit at home in isolation and protect themselves. The rest of us should be working.

The potential for economic depression and all the problems that come with it is simply not worth the risk. Repressing everyone equally is an absurdity with a virus that is so specific in who it impacts.

Thanks for posting that. A non-biased .gov statistic that says 2% of healthy people die.....of the 2% of those that get it that are dying.

So out of 10,000 that get it, 200 will die. And of those 200, 4 were healthy. So 4 of 10,000 or 1:2500 or .05% chance of death is reason for shutting down economy?

Maybe keep all “high risk” folks at home, and allow all healthy folks to try and get it, take that .04% risk to gain heard immunity for them and keep the country moving?
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Thanks for posting that. A non-biased .gov statistic that says 2% of healthy people die.....of the 2% of those that get it that are dying.

So out of 10,000 that get it, 200 will die. And of those 200, 4 were healthy. So 4 of 10,000 or 1:2500 or .05% chance of death is reason for shutting down economy?

Maybe keep all “high risk” folks at home, and allow all healthy folks to try and get it, take that .04% risk to gain heard immunity for them and keep the country moving?
Sweden is trying that and managed to get one of the worst fatality rates of any country fighting this now.
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Sweden is trying that and managed to get one of the worst fatality rates of any country fighting this now.

Thats conjecture.

Facts are they are 18 deaths per million population and they are number 14 when using this measure.

That being said... This measure isnt great because they are in a differnt part of the cycle.
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Old 03-31-2020, 06:10 AM
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3 full months into tbjs and world wide this thing has only killed about 40,000. With a world population near 8,000,000,000

thats somewhere in the neighborhood of .0000005 % of the population
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Herd immunity might be a way to finish this out, and is likely going to happen naturally as with most viruses, but right now would be too much for the healthcare system.
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator View Post
3 full months into tbjs and world wide this thing has only killed about 40,000. With a world population near 8,000,000,000

thats somewhere in the neighborhood of .0000005 % of the population

still 1st inning
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A little long, but good. QandA with a NYC ground zero Dr with a realistic perspective on how to protect your family and how it plays out.




Take away:
-Requires prolonged direct contact.
-Be a clean-hand freak.
-Don’t touch your face, that’s the primary means of infection.
-Utilize social distancing.
-Shrink your social circles.
-Disinfect your area frequently.
-Masks DO NOT stop the virus, but keep you from touching your face. Don’t use n95, save them for first responders and medical personnel.
-Home delivery and take out is perfectly safe. Patronize them, they need the work. Just follow the other rules as you do it.

FOLLOW THE RULES! And you’ll be safe.

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