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Old 04-01-2020, 09:47 AM
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not sure they have a choice
Probably not, but there were rumors they were going to just go straight to Ch.11, this is good for labor anyway.
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Probably not, but there were rumors they were going to just go straight to Ch.11, this is good for labor anyway.

Right book, wrong chapter I’m afraid


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Did I read the loans have a string attached that says staffing can’t be reduced more than 10% of 3/24/2020 staffing during the life of the 5 year loan?
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Did I read the loans have a string attached that says staffing can’t be reduced more than 10% of 3/24/2020 staffing during the life of the 5 year loan?

For the loans there is a 10% clause, not sure for how long though. For the grants it’s no reductions in workforce I believe.


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can you blame them?.............
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The main reason companies buy back stock in the market, of course, is to support their share price. High stock prices not only make shareholders happy but also increase top executives' wealth by making their shareholdings and stock-purchase options more valuable.

In addition, in many cases higher share prices help trigger higher executive compensation because share price is one of the metrics that corporate boards often use to determine executives' compensation packages.

Finally, the higher a company's stock price, the lower the chances are of an "activist" shareholder taking control of the company and kicking out directors and top executives.
All the focus on stock buy-backs can be looked at as a "silver lining" of the current crisis.

That said, I'm inclined to "hate the game, not the player" in this case. You get what you incentivize, and the airlines (and other publicly-traded corporations) are incentivized to boost the stock price above all else. At the same time, there is a disincentive to accumulate a large cash pile, for fear of being subject to some form of hostile takeover.

I have to think there's a way to incentivize companies to manage their balance sheet so that they're better able to weather these kinds of events. Not sure if it would be a change in the tax code, a change in accounting practices, or what.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Most yes.

May be one or two who skip the line at the soup kitchen and just go straight to the BK drive-through... they'll probably get more favorable cuts to labor contracts while the crisis is still on everyone's minds.
If you file bankruptcy with no revenue you end up in chapter 7 and liquidated. Reorganization in bankruptcy requires a revenue stream that can support your daily operations.
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If you file bankruptcy with no revenue you end up in chapter 7 and liquidated. Reorganization in bankruptcy requires a revenue stream that can support your daily operations.
That's true but the process takes a while. They can reasonably make a case that they'll have a revenue stream later in the year, but they need to rightsize now to be ready for that. They also know the fed can't let the big four fail... or at least not more than one of them. Congress can legislate intervention even into a BK proceeding (some risk they'd call your bluff).
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Does anyone know if there is a hard date that the grants must be awarded by, or is it just whenever each specific airline finishes negotiations with the Treasury Dept.?
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