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Old 05-12-2020, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87 View Post
Have you even looked at ticket prices for some city pairs? They’re not cheap.
Have you tried to book a flight? Very limited options, especially if crossing more than two time zones. Horrible connections and going from West to East, hardly any options, if any at all.
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Old 05-15-2020, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
New IATA report out

Apparently, for 118 airlines worldwide, 62% is the breakeven load factor.
Did you even open the report? That's not at all what the report says. 62% is NOT the BELF (breakeven load factor); it is the assumed average load factor with social distancing in effect. And the chart you posted basically said that only four airlines could make money at 62% LF, based on 2019 yields.
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Old 05-15-2020, 09:39 PM
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Not even close to 62%

https://www.transportation.gov/sites...portmajors.pdf
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Old 05-16-2020, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr View Post
Big disclaimer...Based on yields from last year.

You could have 90% loads right now and not even break even because tickets are so cheap.

There is a lot of excess capacity in the system that needs to be reduced before airlines can return to profitability. I keep reminding people that even if miraculously a vaccine was released today, somehow manufactured for 8 billion people overnight, and magically distributed to everyone tomorrow, we would still be in an economic recession with tens of millions of jobless in the US alone.

COVID-19 was the tipping point. The economic recession (or depression if it gets there) is now what the airlines must fight.
Any recession is being caused by the COVID-19. The world (and most definitely not the US) was NOT in a recession pre COVID-19. The way you make it sound is as if we were in a recession prior to the pandemic.
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Old 05-21-2020, 08:45 AM
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Any recession is being caused by the COVID-19. The world (and most definitely not the US) was NOT in a recession pre COVID-19. The way you make it sound is as if we were in a recession prior to the pandemic.
I did not say that. The US economy was doing fine right before COVID-19.

What I said is that Covid-19 was the tipping point that pushed the US into an economic recession.

What is important is even if miraculously a vaccine was released today, somehow manufactured for 8 billion people overnight, and magically distributed to everyone tomorrow, we would still be in an economic recession with tens of millions of jobless in the US alone.

So if the virus disappears overnight, the airline industry is still over capacity and furloughs will happen.
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