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Old 05-25-2007, 08:29 PM
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On May 18, the Department of Transportation gave final approval for Virgin America to begin flying within the United States.
After an 18-month DOT review, with which ALPA was heavily involved, Virgin America agreed to make a number of key changes to its leadership and operations to satisfy U.S. law, which prohibits foreign control of U.S. airlines.
While ALPA will remain watchful to ensure that the Virgin America company abides by its agreement with the DOT, the union looks forward to collaborating with Virgin America pilots on aviation industry safety, security, and labor issues.
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ALPA can't keep up with the obligations it has to the pilots who support it now.
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ALPA can't keep up with the obligations it has to the pilots who support it now.
and what are you doing to help? You're either part of the solution, or part of the problem chief.
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ALPA can't keep up with the obligations it has to the pilots who support it now.
Are you saying that ALPA is task saturated?
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and what are you doing to help? You're either part of the solution, or part of the problem chief.
What is the solution?
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What is the solution?
You're kidding? Right?

Folks need to get more involve at the local level, which is where the magic (or lack there of) happens. There is this misconception that ALPA national runs things at a local level, well they don't. ALPA national oversees issues at a broader scale...age 65, 8 hour reduce rest rule, virgin america p!ssing on our industry.

If you believe ALPA is not doing much for you and your airline, then is time to address the issue with your local leadership. Or elect a new members!
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You're kidding? Right?

Folks need to get more involve at the local level, which is where the magic (or lack there of) happens. There is this misconception that ALPA national runs things at a local level, well they don't. ALPA national oversees issues at a broader scale...age 65, 8 hour reduce rest rule, virgin america p!ssing on our industry.

If you believe ALPA is not doing much for you and your airline, then is time to address the issue with your local leadership. Or elect a new members!
Aren't the major issues that are degrading our profession being lost at the National level?
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ALPA is you. If you have an issue with what's being done, get involved.

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and what are you doing to help? You're either part of the solution, or part of the problem chief.
and virgin america is part of the problem. but hell lets not blame the pilots that go their, let's blame management because it is easier to do that.
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Originally Posted by Sanchez View Post
You're kidding? Right?

Folks need to get more involve at the local level, which is where the magic (or lack there of) happens. There is this misconception that ALPA national runs things at a local level, well they don't. ALPA national oversees issues at a broader scale...age 65, 8 hour reduce rest rule, virgin america p!ssing on our industry.

If you believe ALPA is not doing much for you and your airline, then is time to address the issue with your local leadership. Or elect a new members!
I don't think it's the local level that's broke. it's the national side of things. there needs to be some sort of minimum standard that we as pilots hold ourselves to. we need to hold ourselves responsible for our own actions.

I've asked my local leaders to address somethings at the national meeting (whipsawing) and they basically blew me off and when it was over I asked what was discussed and they told me that they couldn't discuss that either. new members have since been elected and nothing has really changed from what I've seen.

I'm curious how you see virgin america p*ssing on the industry. I think they are as well in regards to compensation.
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