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UnbeatenPath 12-02-2020 05:40 PM

Feds to ban emotional support animals
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/02/us-tightens-definition-of-service-animals-allowed-on-planes-.html

Yeah buddy

ROFF 12-02-2020 06:01 PM

Good. Too much abuse of that crap by snowflakes.

I presume my own emotional support animals will be exempt, a grey goose or wild turkey.

DeltaboundRedux 12-02-2020 07:18 PM

A 'boot time. I for one am tired of picking up doggie doo-doo in the middle of busy terminals after the owners using cellphones with HD cameras (therefore providing immunity from public shaming) because they can't fly without an animal...but also can't TAKE CARE OF IT in public areas.

(3x's in the last six months. At least.)

You know, there's a great deal of things going on in the world that would have garnered great laughter, derision, and scornful laughs that are now commonplace as recently as the 1990's (early). Thank god we live in a much, much more civilized time where "shame" is no longer a thing.

I, of course, pass no judgement. The Feds are staffed with amazing professionals who do not make mistakes. If they say this is the law, it's the law. They know best.

Amen.

TransWorld 12-02-2020 08:08 PM

Darn, means I cannot bring my emotional support porcupine? Assume I can still bring my seeing eye lion. FO always do a double take.

JamesNoBrakes 12-02-2020 09:51 PM

Read the rulemaking and law. Looks pretty solid. Good change.

Grumpyaviator 12-03-2020 05:58 AM

SWA doesn’t allow pets in the cargo compartment. I wonder if there will be changes for us?

Aero1900 12-03-2020 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 3166070)
SWA doesn’t allow pets in the cargo compartment. I wonder if there will be changes for us?

Same with Frontier. Im not against this rule change at all, but if we won't allow people to check their animals, we're basically forcing them to pretend it's an emotional support.

firefighterplt 12-03-2020 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by ROFF (Post 3165902)
Good. Too much abuse of that crap by snowflakes.

I presume my own emotional support animals will be exempt, a grey goose or wild turkey.

Just sneak it on the plane. In your stomach.

CincoDeMayo 12-03-2020 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3166082)
Same with Frontier. Im not against this rule change at all, but if we won't allow people to check their animals, we're basically forcing them to pretend it's an emotional support.

So?

Sorry to be so direct but, So? The airline doesn’t want to accept the liability of transporting your dog in the cargo bin and pets don’t belong in the airline cabin.

People don’t pretend it’s an emotional support animal because of the lack of “cargo” option, they did it to not pay to bring the animal as a carry on pet and because putting an animal in the cargo compartment is borderline cruel.

There are airlines who will transport a pet in cargo, people can use them. I doubt Frontier wants to spend the money to have someone driving around the ramp collecting dogs in crates on the ramp, once DGS puts them down on the ramp, in the sun, under the loud APU.

JamesNoBrakes 12-03-2020 08:11 AM

It probably won't win, but I'd expect the miniature-horse service-animal community to put forth some lawsuits, probably finding an unscrupulous lawyer that doesn't understand 14 CFR. They are service-animals, but the DOTs reasoning seems pretty solid, they can't sit in a lap and be secured like a lap-child nor can they fit under the seats, therefore, they cannot be secured, which is a requirement for all cargo, which everything other than people in the cabin is.


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