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Old 05-31-2007, 07:17 AM
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Wheeeeeee! That's great news to me.

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Alaska Airlines will start flying to Hawaii this year, offering daily year-round nonstop flights from Seattle to Honolulu and Lihue on the island of Kauai starting in October, and seasonal service from Anchorage to Honolulu beginning in December.

Gregg Saretsky, the company's executive vice president of flight and marketing, said Hawaii is the biggest market the airline does not yet serve out of Seattle and Anchorage — and one that many customers have been hounding it to add for years. "We expect these flights to be full, that's for sure," Saretsky said.

Alaska Airlines, the nation's ninth-largest carrier, has had its eye on Hawaii for about a decade but hasn't had the right planes to fly there.

Its Boeing 737-700s have had the range to make the trip but were not stocked with the rafts, extra radio gear and other emergency equipment required for extended overwater flights. The new 737-800s it started adding to its fleet last year fill that gap, Saretsky said.

Those planes, which seat 141 passengers in coach and 16 in first class, are big enough for the airline to make money serving Hawaii, yet small enough for it to fly into and out of the Lihue airport without having to stop in Honolulu, which no other airline does out of Seattle, Saretksy said.

Northwest Airlines and Hawaiian Airlines each fly from Seattle to Kauai but don't offer nonstop service because the larger aircraft they fly have passenger-load restrictions serving the Lihue airport, Alaska Airlines spokeswoman Caroline Boren said.

Alaska Airlines flights from Seattle to Honolulu will begin Oct. 12, and service from Seattle to Lihue will begin Oct. 28. The seasonal Anchorage-to-Honololu service will run from Dec. 9 to April 13, and the airline will consider expanding that service in the future, Boren said.

Alaska Airlines is offering introductory one-way fares, with certain restrictions and blackout dates, for three days beginning Thursday: $109 from Seattle to Honolulu, $149 from Seattle to Lihue and $159 from Anchorage to Honolulu.

The company declined to say how much prices would rise after the sale ends Saturday.

The airline, a subsidiary of Alaska Air Group, wants to add the Big Island and Maui to its list of Hawaii destinations but has no timetable in mind.

Many flights to Hawaii originate from San Francisco and Los Angeles, but Saretsky said Alaska Airlines isn't planning to add Hawaii service from those airports.

"Our home base is Seattle, and so it would be more natural for us to expand Hawaii service by serving additional islands nonstop from Seattle," he said.

Once it adds Honolulu and Lihue to its network, Alaska Airlines will fly to 60 cities in the United States, Canada and Mexico.
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Wheee! We are adding flights to the destination with the lowest yields in the country! Wheee, that ought to add to the bottom line. They are probably going to use these flights to use up some of those never expiring miles.

OK, actually it will be kind of cool to overnight there. It might even be a bit hard to find a dive hotel to put us in. I'm sure they will try though.
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Mike...... you sure know how to hurt a girl's feelings about my favorite airline. Give Ayer and his team a bit of credit. Next, they'll use the 737 to go Seattle to Narita and refuel with a tanker. Or land in Honolulu and make passengers pay for more fuel before going on. I can think of all kinds of worse things. Hawaii is paradise compared to BUR.
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does this cout as irony?
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My dear Outlaw, does what count as irony?

Mike and I are about as ironic and sardonic a pair as you can find on these forums. We have elevated irony into an art form that is emulated by many. However, he is qualitatively the nonpareil.
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Originally Posted by vagabond View Post
My dear Outlaw, does what count as irony?

Mike and I are about as ironic and sardonic a pair as you can find on these forums. We have elevated irony into an art form that is emulated by many. However, he is qualitatively the nonpareil.
...so is that a yes?
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Originally Posted by mike734 View Post
Wheee! We are adding flights to the destination with the lowest yields in the country! Wheee, that ought to add to the bottom line. They are probably going to use these flights to use up some of those never expiring miles.
From Alaskasworld.com:

Despite a higher percentage of award travelers, the airline expects the new Hawaii flights to be profitable.

“Average fares in the Hawaii market are slightly higher than transcontinental routes,” said Ben Crandall, manager of revenue analysis. “But fares in the market do vary widely by season. Customers planning to visit Hawaii during Christmas or spring break can expect to pay more than those who travel off-season. Still, our fares — especially in first class — will be lower than the competition.”
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Originally Posted by mike734 View Post
Wheee! We are adding flights to the destination with the lowest yields in the country! Wheee, that ought to add to the bottom line. They are probably going to use these flights to use up some of those never expiring miles.

OK, actually it will be kind of cool to overnight there. It might even be a bit hard to find a dive hotel to put us in. I'm sure they will try though.
Even worse, flying a 737 for 6+ hours over the ocean. No thanks, as a pilot or a passenger.

And, yes; HNL does have plenty of 'dive' hotels!
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Even worse, flying a 737 for 6+ hours over the ocean. No thanks, as a pilot or a passenger.

And, yes; HNL does have plenty of 'dive' hotels!
Like flying a 757 over the ocean for 6+ hours is any better? I know for a pilot, at least it's a bigger cockpit, but for a passenger, whats the difference?
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver View Post
Like flying a 757 over the ocean for 6+ hours is any better? I know for a pilot, at least it's a bigger cockpit, but for a passenger, whats the difference?
Have you flown either jet? I've flown both. The B-757 is the smallest thing that should cross an ocean.
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