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Old 02-15-2021, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr View Post
A lot of Constitutional scholars see the 4th amendment as potentially blocking a “wealth tax”. It took a Constitutional amendment to enact the income tax. As far as the rest, I am very opposed to the idea of anyone but me deciding how much I should pass on to my descendants. For the most part inheritance taxes hit the upper middle class/ small business owners the hardest. Their estate may exceed the $15 million dollar minimum (didn’t look it up), but can’t structure it to avoid the inheritance tax the way the very wealthy can. Especially true for small business owners who may be asset rich and cash poor. It’s the same as the income tax. If your W2 says $500k, many would call you rich and say it’s your “duty” to pay an obscene tax bill. A truly rich individual would take in several million, but it would be structured as capital gains or other methods to minimize tax liability and result in a smaller tax Bill than the guy whose W2 says $500k.

Yeah, the rich can pay for high powered tax firms to make use of the loopholes they lobbied congress to enact. I know many use the S Corp payroll tax loophole as well. Out of curiosity, I looked it up and it’s currently set at $11.7M exemption per person or $23.4M per couple. But I’m almost certain that that will be lowered to $5M or less soon.

I found a good article explaining ways to get around the estate and inheritance tax.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleae...h=5a64cef459e8
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Old 02-16-2021, 05:40 AM
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With the way the press ways in on things, it will be pushed as an equity issue by whatever means. Stack the courts, ram an amendment, write an emergency executive order..... when enough people believe that the constitution is just a speed bump along the way they want the Feds to run the whole country, they will find a way to impose anything. I hope I'm wrong but all it will take is a "crisis" and the powers-to-be will seize the opportunity to forgo any amendments.
Look not even a day later the press has started the glorification process on the morality and need for a “wealth tax” on all assets annually.

Bloomberg nonetheless: https://share.smartnews.com/ep2A
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Old 02-20-2021, 04:26 PM
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Taxes are voluntary. The thing I don't like about these accounts is that you frontload your decision to pay or not. When you hand your money over to the brokerage who will act as a tax escrow, it's going to be paid. I'd rather delay the choice. 2020 was a pretty good wake up call that life is a box of chocolates.
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