Cockpit dynamics during long transits
#21
My last 12 years were corporate and I had the pleasure of working with a mature, fun loving group—we did all kinds of off-duty stuff, depending on the locale. Best restaurants, hiking, snorkeling, touring, etc. That said, we flew lots of long legs and fatigue or need to sleep was sacrosanct. Sometimes the pilots would be asked at a company event, but being fit for duty was a no go line.
#22
Or not. And be like the crusty old guy at my regional who got caught by the CMO chief with about two years of un-opened shrinkwrap... the guy had all the ILS freqs memorized and thought he could make it to retirement (almost got to retire early).
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The problem in you question that precipitated the sarcasm and would have garnered more useful answers if you left off was:
”1. How do you pass the time during long transits? Are kindles/games/ipad reading commonplace?”
With regards to that...... most on here wrote the proper and legal response to such a question. Many media organizations monitor forums as well as industry blogs and responding in any other way to this question you asked has the very real possibility some news reporter smearing our profession as a whole by citing pilots admitting to engaging in unsanctioned activities (which all of those are, besides reading company related material). The social dynamics question is totally legitimate, you just should have focused on that aspect.
”1. How do you pass the time during long transits? Are kindles/games/ipad reading commonplace?”
With regards to that...... most on here wrote the proper and legal response to such a question. Many media organizations monitor forums as well as industry blogs and responding in any other way to this question you asked has the very real possibility some news reporter smearing our profession as a whole by citing pilots admitting to engaging in unsanctioned activities (which all of those are, besides reading company related material). The social dynamics question is totally legitimate, you just should have focused on that aspect.
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The interaction depends on the individuals involved, different personalities can make for fun or not so fun trips.
Many airlines allow you to buddy bid to pair up with a friend.
I miss the days with the FE's as a freight dog. Lots of interesting characters.
Many airlines allow you to buddy bid to pair up with a friend.
I miss the days with the FE's as a freight dog. Lots of interesting characters.
#26
lol yes kind of a loaded question, totally fair - I didn't think of it from that angle. I'm just a dude seriously considering pursuing an airline career and want to get a good handle on the "day-to-day" life of a pilot - the stuff no one really talks about. My understanding is that "approved company reading material" is authorized to quietly pass the time during long transits. That seems reasonable considering everyone flies with ipads now.
#27
Yeah, OP reeks of either
1) A Riddle kid writing a thesis on airline flying (perfectly okay, IMO) or
2) One of those hack wannabe reporters writing another in a series of "Did you know that every single pilot ever takes pictures below 10,000 feet in blatant violation of standard government mandated safety protocols."
Like this "reporter" who's story is that he monitored Instagram and is a tattletale: https://qz.com/233165/the-pilots-of-...es-of-the-air/
So if you're the first, sorry. Try being honest and forthcoming about what you are looking for and you'll get some serious yet sterile answers.
If you're the second, you obviously suck at what you do and should stick to your day job as a barista.
1) A Riddle kid writing a thesis on airline flying (perfectly okay, IMO) or
2) One of those hack wannabe reporters writing another in a series of "Did you know that every single pilot ever takes pictures below 10,000 feet in blatant violation of standard government mandated safety protocols."
Like this "reporter" who's story is that he monitored Instagram and is a tattletale: https://qz.com/233165/the-pilots-of-...es-of-the-air/
So if you're the first, sorry. Try being honest and forthcoming about what you are looking for and you'll get some serious yet sterile answers.
If you're the second, you obviously suck at what you do and should stick to your day job as a barista.
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Yeah, OP reeks of either
1) A Riddle kid writing a thesis on airline flying (perfectly okay, IMO) or
2) One of those hack wannabe reporters writing another in a series of "Did you know that every single pilot ever takes pictures below 10,000 feet in blatant violation of standard government mandated safety protocols."
Like this "reporter" who's story is that he monitored Instagram and is a tattletale: https://qz.com/233165/the-pilots-of-...es-of-the-air/
So if you're the first, sorry. Try being honest and forthcoming about what you are looking for and you'll get some serious yet sterile answers.
If you're the second, you obviously suck at what you do and should stick to your day job as a barista.
1) A Riddle kid writing a thesis on airline flying (perfectly okay, IMO) or
2) One of those hack wannabe reporters writing another in a series of "Did you know that every single pilot ever takes pictures below 10,000 feet in blatant violation of standard government mandated safety protocols."
Like this "reporter" who's story is that he monitored Instagram and is a tattletale: https://qz.com/233165/the-pilots-of-...es-of-the-air/
So if you're the first, sorry. Try being honest and forthcoming about what you are looking for and you'll get some serious yet sterile answers.
If you're the second, you obviously suck at what you do and should stick to your day job as a barista.
But seriously, my question comes from my personality type. I'm sorta introverted (not weird or socially awkward, just naturally quiet) and making hours of small talk every day for the rest of my life seems kind of daunting...But I LOVE flying and am determined to learn be a really good pilot. So I am curious if my captains are going to expect me to be this bubbly fountain of entertaining banter - or if they'll appreciate a quiet competent co-pilot?
Sorry for my naivete, just an honest curiosity before I sink all my savings into pursuing an airline career! Thank you for any honest answers.
#30
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Damn! I've been found out! I guess now my only question is...can I still barista part time while being an airline pilot?
But seriously, my question comes from my personality type. I'm sorta introverted (not weird or socially awkward, just naturally quiet) and making hours of small talk every day for the rest of my life seems kind of daunting...But I LOVE flying and am determined to learn be a really good pilot. So I am curious if my captains are going to expect me to be this bubbly fountain of entertaining banter - or if they'll appreciate a quiet competent co-pilot?
Sorry for my naivete, just an honest curiosity before I sink all my savings into pursuing an airline career! Thank you for any honest answers.
But seriously, my question comes from my personality type. I'm sorta introverted (not weird or socially awkward, just naturally quiet) and making hours of small talk every day for the rest of my life seems kind of daunting...But I LOVE flying and am determined to learn be a really good pilot. So I am curious if my captains are going to expect me to be this bubbly fountain of entertaining banter - or if they'll appreciate a quiet competent co-pilot?
Sorry for my naivete, just an honest curiosity before I sink all my savings into pursuing an airline career! Thank you for any honest answers.
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