by that metric, I’m clearly overdosing on ambien daily because I’m wholly incapable of an intelligent conversation.

That stuff was so bizarre. I’d talk to my mom before she went to bed, “hey, I’m going to go to XYZ’s house after school to work on a group project if that’s ok?”

”of course, have fun!”

the next day I’d be at XYZ’s house and get a frantic phone call because she had 0 recollection of the conversation even though she seemed totally lucid at the time.

Thank god she quit taking it before too long.

We had a stew get up in the middle of the night and cut her own hair on a layover. She was not happy

my mother also to take it. Two things stood out.

1. disappearing food. She’d wake up and binge eat the crap out all the food. And what she didn’t eat she’d feed to the dogs. So it was common for whole loafs of bread or blocks of cheese to go missing.

2. my favorite, the fugue shopping. She get up in the middle of the night and buy the most random crap on Amazon, have no memory of it, then wonder why she was getting random deliveries of metal detectors/youth sized violins/leather working tools.

I think it depends on how tired you are going into your trip, or what your sleep debt is. I’ve had days like you described, 7 hours of sleep, 5 hours awake, then another 6 or 7 hours of sleep, but I was tired going into it and needed the extra sleep anyway.

I think sleep hygiene is one of the most important factors in feeling normal during redeyes. If you’re all caught up on sleep going in (I use a sleep tracking app on Apple Watch called AutoSleep that uses sleep rings kind of like the activity tracker), you can miss a sleep period and still feel ok.

Anyone getting paid a red eye override? Seems some extra money may be a fair compensation for the loss of sleep and health risks associated…

SWA and JBLU do

Plus the added risk of something going wrong. I would feel like errors are more common at 3am over Oklahoma than they are at 10am.

Delta has an adjustment to the duty rig for overnight hours but not a straight override.

In addition to melatonin anyone experimented with using blue light blocking glasses in cockpit and on the way to the hotel? I’ve read the blue light is what can hinder the bodies natural melatonin production. Wondering if a blue light blocking lenses with an amber tint could help?