Why doesn't scope apply to pay?
07-25-2021, 10:35 AM
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Why doesn't scope apply to pay?
Why is it mainline uses scope to reduce aircraft types available to regional carriers yet it is not used to limit low wages at the regional level. Wouldn't requiring higher regional pilot pay reduce to cost effectiveness of regionals and also improve pay for more junior mainline pilots? For instance the first year FO pay at a wholey owned regional having a minimum of 70% of the median FO pay at the major for instance, or maybe to the highest rate if contracted to multiple carriers.
07-25-2021, 10:52 AM
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In response to both of the above. Rates are negotiated for other companies. Pay is tied to type of aircraft even within the same major. So logically ALPA is forcing a lower wage at the regional level which has much weaker union power.
07-25-2021, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Gundam
In response to both of the above. Rates are negotiated for other companies. Pay is tied to type of aircraft even within the same major. So logically ALPA is forcing a lower wage at the regional level which has much weaker union power.
07-25-2021, 11:15 AM
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The only way to feasibly have this happen is if you are giving up NEW scope and the regional flying the plane is also owned by the parent company, and for some reason you want to waste negotiating capital on some other guys’ pay rates. Once scope is given up, you no longer have any say on who or how that plane gets flown (barring ratio rules, etc etc)
07-25-2021, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Gundam
In response to both of the above. Rates are negotiated for other companies. Pay is tied to type of aircraft even within the same major. So logically ALPA is forcing a lower wage at the regional level which has much weaker union power.
regionals have substantially less leverage at the table due to their low margins and fixed costs/revenue.
07-25-2021, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Gundam
Wouldn't requiring higher regional pilot pay reduce to cost effectiveness of regionals and also improve pay for more junior mainline pilots?
07-25-2021, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry in TN
I think you are overestimating the power that the mainline pilot groups have under the RLA to dictate terms at the bargaining table.
Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
regionals have substantially less leverage at the table due to their low margins and fixed costs/revenue.
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