2 year upgrades at UAL
11-18-2021, 10:52 AM
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Kirby gave an interview several weeks ago saying single-class 50 seat would be used exclusively in those markets that couldn’t support anything bigger. And that those markets might lose service
Last week they killed a dozen 50 seat markets. Yesterday he said it was due to lack of pilots
50 seaters are unlikely to survive another year… except MAYBE piedmont
Last week they killed a dozen 50 seat markets. Yesterday he said it was due to lack of pilots
50 seaters are unlikely to survive another year… except MAYBE piedmont
11-19-2021, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
Premium pay will dry up once Manning is back where it needs to be (this Spring)… only the most senior will be getting any premium pay once that occurs. This summer on 756 we were short staffed with lots of PP… this fall it’s few and far between… and the trips tagged with PP are horrible.
The last vacancy had 800+ unfilled with another December vacancy to come.
1 year upgrades on the December vacancy.
11-19-2021, 05:40 AM
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Regardless of how many of these new deliveries are growth vs replacements, the training center will be maxed out. Taking a record number of deliveries while simultaneously hiring a record number of pilots should generate a ton of premium trips, mostly on the 737.
11-19-2021, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by UALfoLIFE
No way they catch up by spring, maybe by the end of 2022. Summer 22 is going to be PP crazy!
The last vacancy had 800+ unfilled with another December vacancy to come.
1 year upgrades on the December vacancy.
The last vacancy had 800+ unfilled with another December vacancy to come.
1 year upgrades on the December vacancy.
in any case… I hope your right on PP next summer!
11-19-2021, 10:47 AM
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The number of vacancies certainly points to a lot of hiring but I wouldn’t extrapolate based on the data. Most of them will expire before they can be used. The actually new hire plan is driven by training capacity and the company is motivated to create enough vacancies in every category to. It run out of training slots.
At the same time there are no costs for the company to create vacancies. Nothing stops them for having 1,000 SFO 737 FO slots on the vacancy. Voila here is your MOAB if only measured in terms of total open positions.
At the same time there are no costs for the company to create vacancies. Nothing stops them for having 1,000 SFO 737 FO slots on the vacancy. Voila here is your MOAB if only measured in terms of total open positions.
11-27-2021, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Those NB deliveries should basically seal the fate of the single class 50 seaters. Kirby just said that he wants to beat Delta in quality and not quantity. If he is even remotely serious, there is no way that our large fleet of 50 seat flying garbage cans can ever compete with what Delta offers. I guess time will tell what his plans actually are.
11-28-2021, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
Not sure what he means by "quality"
11-28-2021, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
Kirby just ordered 200 737 MAX-discomfort aircraft, Delta is buying comfy A220s. Not sure what he means by "quality"
Also, please tell me what the aircraft type has to do with the interior the airline decides to put in it.
11-28-2021, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
Kirby just ordered 200 737 MAX-discomfort aircraft, Delta is buying comfy A220s. Not sure what he means by "quality"
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