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Old 11-30-2021, 05:04 AM
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If he didn't state that he wanted to fly widebodies, I'd say go to AA and enjoy the QOL and flexibility of living in base. But given his age and the fact he wants to be a widebody pilot, I'd go to UPS.
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I’ve done quite a bit research into UPS. I’ve talked to a few pilots and read the threads here too. The lifestyle does seem to be draining and not what I see myself doing. The compensation is too large to ignore though, but I don’t have expensive tastes either. I do like the obvious advantages of boxes vs px.

AA stays in the running just because of CLT, and the old saying to always live in base, and I agree with that, but I’ve got a ticket with both UA and UPS now. This is indeed a good problem to have.
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I’ve done quite a bit research into UPS. I’ve talked to a few pilots and read the threads here too. The lifestyle does seem to be draining and not what I see myself doing. The compensation is too large to ignore though, but I don’t have expensive tastes either. I do like the obvious advantages of boxes vs px.

AA stays in the running just because of CLT, and the old saying to always live in base, and I agree with that, but I’ve got a ticket with both UA and UPS now. This is indeed a good problem to have.
How much time do you have to make the decision? If you have enough time jumpseat on UPS into the sort and then back to CLT. It might help you with the decision. You might be able to use the semi private or private sleep room (Not sure if non UPS employees can use the private room) to catch a nap before heading back to CLT.

Living in CLT should make for an easy commute with UPS and AA jumpseats. And it will make life much easier when you have commercial deadhead trips since they would likely be single legs to and from CLT.

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If your heart is set on wide body flying, take UPS and never look back.
After having done it for several years, I’m happy to fly transcons or spend my days in the Caribbean.
AA may be appealing for obvious reasons, but CLT isn’t exactly junior, and to do any wide body flying you’ll be commuting to JFK, DFW or MIA for a long time.
You wouldn’t have wasted your time applying AND asking us if you wanted to go to AA…
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Old 11-30-2021, 12:43 PM
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A decade + ago I used to commute out of CLT on UPS quite a bit. Oftentimes it was the same pilots (CLT locals). Great crews and very accommodating each time.
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Old 11-30-2021, 12:48 PM
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Y’all are driving me insane.

this isn’t airline A vs airline B

this is major now vs major in 10 months. That is not an arguable question. You take the job now.
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Data point:

I’m at UAL and met a pilot who used to work at UPS who is now here.

I asked him why he left UPS, isn’t that the Golden ticket etc etc.

He showed me a schedule of his. It looked absolutely brutal. Late departures, night sort, back out again. And it was a multi-day trip of the same stuff.

I hate redeyes and couldn’t imagine doing more than one to finish a trip, followed by multiple days off. And you can avoid them with a little seniority.
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Why do you get 100k bonus to go to AA? Is that bad that they need to pay people to accept jobs at AA?
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Why do you get 100k bonus to go to AA? Is that bad that they need to pay people to accept jobs at AA?
their regionals are that bad they’re paying people so they will consider insane things like turning down united to be a crj captain for 10 more months.
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their regionals are that bad they’re paying people so they will consider insane things like turning down united to be a crj captain for 10 more months.
Even worse, some people are falling for it.
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