Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major
Day off definitions: saga continues >

Day off definitions: saga continues

Notices
Major Legacy, National, and LCC

Day off definitions: saga continues

Old 12-24-2021, 07:44 AM
  #1  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 1,082
Default Day off definitions: saga continues

Originally Posted by Zerosilver84 View Post
How are you crediting that much with that many days off?! I'm a 2nd year FO at edv avg 12 days off as a line holder and only made 75k this year. Blocked 550hrs.
He didn’t. Despite what he thinks, a reserve day where you didn’t get used is NOT a day off. It may feel like a day off, but it unequivocally is not.
jaxsurf is offline  
Old 12-24-2021, 07:49 AM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,939
Default

Originally Posted by jaxsurf View Post
He didn’t. Despite what he thinks, a reserve day where you didn’t get used is NOT a day off. It may feel like a day off, but it unequivocally is not.
This is not true. Most people at Delta bid reserve on the WB because they get unused on LC which is, effectively, a day off.

Most people in the spring of 2020 didn't get used on reserve for whole months. Are you trying to tell me they shouldn't consider unused time as time off?
CBreezy is offline  
Old 12-24-2021, 07:51 AM
  #3  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 1,082
Default

Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
Are you trying to tell me they shouldn't consider unused time as time off?
I feel like I was pretty clear. If you’re on call, you’re not off. How is that confusing?

You yourself even had to qualify it with “effectively.” Is it almost the same as being off? Yes. Is it kinda like being off? Yes. Is it actually off? No.
jaxsurf is offline  
Old 12-24-2021, 07:53 AM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,939
Default

Originally Posted by jaxsurf View Post
I feel like I was pretty clear. If you’re on call, you’re not off. How is that confusing?
If I'm on a 12 hour leash for 7 straight days and no one calls, those 7 days are, effectively, paid time off.
CBreezy is offline  
Old 12-24-2021, 07:54 AM
  #5  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Taxi Driver
Posts: 411
Default

Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
This is not true. Most people at Delta bid reserve on the WB because they get unused on LC which is, effectively, a day off.

Most people in the spring of 2020 didn't get used on reserve for whole months. Are you trying to tell me they shouldn't consider unused time as time off?
Time off to me means completely free of any obligation to the company. Reserve days where a pilot doesn't fly don't count towards legal rest, and they sure don't count as time off in my eyes. Seems as though you see it differently, which is fine.
Spudhauler is offline  
Old 12-24-2021, 07:57 AM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 1,082
Default

Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
If I'm on a 12 hour leash for 7 straight days and no one calls, those 7 days are, effectively, paid time off.


Okay dude, have fun trolling.
jaxsurf is offline  
Old 12-24-2021, 07:57 AM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,939
Default

Originally Posted by Spudhauler View Post
Time off to me means completely free of any obligation to the company. Reserve days where a pilot doesn't fly don't count towards legal rest, and they sure don't count as time off in my eyes. Seems as though you see it differently, which is fine.
If I'm counting days I actually had to work, I absolutely ignore unused reserve days. If your contract allows long call reserve and people are able to bid during shoulder months so they don't get used, it's a contractual benefit. Just because you are technically "on call" doesn't mean you are working.
CBreezy is offline  
Old 12-24-2021, 07:59 AM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,063
Default

Originally Posted by Spudhauler View Post
Time off to me means completely free of any obligation to the company. Reserve days where a pilot doesn't fly don't count towards legal rest, and they sure don't count as time off in my eyes. Seems as though you see it differently, which is fine.
While I agree res is not a day off (it’s not considered one in any contract and has a value attached to it) long call is a bit different. That is considered legal rest and needs to stay that way.

Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 12-24-2021 at 08:17 AM.
fcoolaiddrinker is offline  
Old 12-24-2021, 08:01 AM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,939
Default

Originally Posted by jaxsurf View Post


Okay dude, have fun trolling.
Just because I disagree agree with your narrow definition of "days off" doesn't mean I'm trolling.
CBreezy is offline  
Old 12-24-2021, 08:14 AM
  #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 968
Default

Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
If I'm counting days I actually had to work, I absolutely ignore unused reserve days. If your contract allows long call reserve and people are able to bid during shoulder months so they don't get used, it's a contractual benefit. Just because you are technically "on call" doesn't mean you are working.
Who cares what you ‘consider days off’ lol. If you’re on call, you need to be contactable by your job and ready to come into work. That’s not a day off. That’s not even that enjoyable knowing your phone can ring at any second. Looking back in hindsight at your ‘days off’ doesn’t change this fact either. Give it a rest.
Roy Biggins is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SpaceManX
ExpressJet
32
03-18-2019 05:02 AM
DALFA
Delta
18
01-09-2018 04:05 PM
CaptainCarl
Trans States Airlines
10900
12-31-2015 11:54 AM
meloveboeing
Regional
5
10-02-2010 07:47 AM
dckozak
JetBlue
14
03-17-2007 02:38 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices