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Old 01-20-2022, 03:59 PM
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Sounds like the MECs better get together to improve everyone’s bargaining positions.
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Old 01-20-2022, 06:00 PM
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I haven’t looked at the comparisons so do hold me to it but they might be mostly TA comparisons. That’s usually when the comparisons are composed. For voting time. Might explain some of the anomalies.
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Old 01-20-2022, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
I’d have to scrub it again, but off the top of my head number of mainline planes is wrong (jetblue has 282, it said like 210 or something…but they had an updated pilot count. Also the fleet hasn’t been that small in probably 5-7 years). And premium at jetblue is 150% for pickup, 175% for reserve augmentation if used (150 if not used), and 200% for roughly the equivalent of green slips…ours is just a thing where put your name in and get called in seniority order. Reroute/junior man pay is 150% if inside originally scheduled pairing footprint…200% if outside the footprint, but the CCG says 140%. Furlough pay is 1 month pay for each year of service up to 6 months total but the CCG says none. Those are the things off the top of my head, but I think there were a couple more. I’ll check again when I get time

thanks for the info, follow up question, on a reroute, what portion pays 150/200%? Reroutes are a sore subject at DL right now and I’m curious how that works for you? I would assume you would get the better of originally scheduled/actually flown and the rerouted portion would pay 1.5/2x

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Old 01-20-2022, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
thanks for the info, follow up question, on a reroute, what portion pays 150/200%? Reroutes are a sore subject at DL right now and I’m curious how that works for you? I would assume you would get the better of originally scheduled/actually flown and the rerouted portion would pay 1.5/2x

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Emergency Assignment (EA)
1. A Pilot shall be paid scheduled or actual, whichever is greater, to the point the Emergency Assignment begins
2. The Pilot is pay protected for the greater of the scheduled Block time of each Segment from the Original Scheduled Pairing or each EA Segment(s) on a Segment-by-Segment basis, scheduled or actual, whichever is greater, at 150% until the Pilot is returned to his Original Scheduled Pairing.
3. Once returned to his Original Scheduled Pairing, the Pilot is paid scheduled or actual, whichever is greater for these Segments and includes all applicable rigs and overrides for the Original Scheduled Pairing.
4. An Emergency Assignment that has been cancelled after the Pilot has reported for the affected Duty Period shall pay an additional two hours at the Pilot’s hourly rate. If the same Duty Period is affected by further Emergency Assignment, the Pilot shall be paid Emergency Assignment pay instead of the two hours at his hourly rate for a cancellation .

Extended Pairing Segment (EPS)1
1. Emergency Assigned Pilot Pay for the Segment(s) extending past or added outside of the OSP Pairing Footprint will be at 200% for the scheduled/actual Block time or 5:00 whichever is greater, to include all applicable rigs above guarantee or his monthly credit, whichever is greater.
2. Disrupted Pilot Pay for the Segment(s) extending past or added outside of the OSP Pairing Footprint by up to two hours will be at 200% for 2:00 hours, to include all applicable rigs above guarantee or his monthly credit, whichever is greater
3. Pay for the Segment(s) extending or added outside of the OSP Pairing Footprint by two hours or more will be at 200% for the scheduled/actual Block time or 5:00 whichever is greater, to include all applicable rigs above guarantee or his monthly credit, whichever is greater
4. A Pilot who gives concurrence to report earlier than the Report Time of his Original Scheduled Pairing shall be paid at 200% for the Segment(s) added outside of the Original Scheduled Pairing footprint for the scheduled/actual Block time or 5:00, whichever is greater, to include all applicable rigs above guarantee or his monthly credit, whichever is greater.
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Old 01-21-2022, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
Emergency Assignment (EA)
1. A Pilot shall be paid scheduled or actual, whichever is greater, to the point the Emergency Assignment begins
2. The Pilot is pay protected for the greater of the scheduled Block time of each Segment from the Original Scheduled Pairing or each EA Segment(s) on a Segment-by-Segment basis, scheduled or actual, whichever is greater, at 150% until the Pilot is returned to his Original Scheduled Pairing.
3. Once returned to his Original Scheduled Pairing, the Pilot is paid scheduled or actual, whichever is greater for these Segments and includes all applicable rigs and overrides for the Original Scheduled Pairing.
4. An Emergency Assignment that has been cancelled after the Pilot has reported for the affected Duty Period shall pay an additional two hours at the Pilot’s hourly rate. If the same Duty Period is affected by further Emergency Assignment, the Pilot shall be paid Emergency Assignment pay instead of the two hours at his hourly rate for a cancellation .

Extended Pairing Segment (EPS)1
1. Emergency Assigned Pilot Pay for the Segment(s) extending past or added outside of the OSP Pairing Footprint will be at 200% for the scheduled/actual Block time or 5:00 whichever is greater, to include all applicable rigs above guarantee or his monthly credit, whichever is greater.
2. Disrupted Pilot Pay for the Segment(s) extending past or added outside of the OSP Pairing Footprint by up to two hours will be at 200% for 2:00 hours, to include all applicable rigs above guarantee or his monthly credit, whichever is greater
3. Pay for the Segment(s) extending or added outside of the OSP Pairing Footprint by two hours or more will be at 200% for the scheduled/actual Block time or 5:00 whichever is greater, to include all applicable rigs above guarantee or his monthly credit, whichever is greater
4. A Pilot who gives concurrence to report earlier than the Report Time of his Original Scheduled Pairing shall be paid at 200% for the Segment(s) added outside of the Original Scheduled Pairing footprint for the scheduled/actual Block time or 5:00, whichever is greater, to include all applicable rigs above guarantee or his monthly credit, whichever is greater.
awesome, thank you!
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Old 01-21-2022, 04:45 AM
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Aero crew news has a decent comparison called “the grid” that they try to get to an apples to apples level.
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