Yeah and the fact that AS is even on the list screams large high COL west coast location. And I know all the guys who live in a Midland or Little Rock and play the municipal course will be like "just move" but if the kids are anchored with the ex, you're stuck.

Times are great when guys are needing, and can, make $110k first year.

When it eventually crashes, as it always does, some people will be in for a shocker. Ignorance is bliss when you only know the upside of this career.

I believe there’s a stipulation that your 401k loan has to be from the current employer’s 401k program. If you’re no longer working there you have six months to pay it back or pay a penalty.

Roll what you need into your new employer then do the loan.

Seriously? If a child born today can't get a $1m/yr new-hire job before he retires then pay isn't keeping up with inflation.

Yup because this industry has always followed a linear pay progression, keeping up with inflation. Never had any downturns in the industry where rates were reset, pilots furloughed, pension plans gutted. Sure, that will never happen again. Million dollar starting just around the corner. Sure…sure.

That's typical from I've seen, and is probably mandated by the federal code.

Verify that's possible with the new employer. It's legal but the specific plan also has to allow it.

Worst case, like I said, cash out the new 401k and eat the penalty.

a Honda Accord starts at $40k out the door today. The average home is quickly approaching $400k and is even more expensive in many airline bases. 100k for an adult person with adult responsibilities isn’t much at all. You can make that sort of money doing unskilled work. The post has been moved quickly and we as a profession aren’t doing ourselves any favors by admonishing folks who cant make it on $20/hr like we’d like to remember we could.

And like I said; we will never furlough again, contracts will never be reset, retirement plans won’t be altered, right? Because the “post” has been moved, yet the industry has always loved to move the “post” in various directions. Seriously?

You realize you can comprehend these are good times, and also realize the industry has a history of kicking pilots in their nuts while enjoying the good times. Starry eyed is great until it isn’t. And check the tape, I didn’t admonish anyone, simply pointing out how good things are currently that this is a barrier to entry for some people.

this thread is amazing 😂😂😂