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NotMrNiceGuy 08-26-2022 06:43 PM

Regional Contracts Lead the Way
 
Saw this topic pop up on the sub-forums. Thought it was worthy of its own thread here.

Regional pay is sky rocketing. 12 year Captains earning in the $200/hr ballpark from Skywest to Mesa. Given the meager increases at from the proposals at AAL and UAL, is it warranted to have greater expectations given the current regional market and ongoing inflationary environment? I just took a phone survey last week, and now I feel like my percentage ask was too low.

BobbyLeeSwagger 08-26-2022 07:09 PM

Absolutely it's warranted. If you look at from a revenue generated standpoint and experience level, mainline pilots need to be making significantly more than they are now. I'm talking UALs C2000 adjusted for inflation +20% which would allow for a *meager* wage increase over 21 yrs. Think big, and then think a lot bigger.

Imagine a NBFO making $250-300 an hour? NBCA making $375-425? Why not? If they are willing to pay what they are for 76 seats?

Aero1900 08-26-2022 07:35 PM

$320/ hour for the A320 needs to be the new industry minimum captain pay.

I'm working on a good #

#$320forthe320 ??

Halon1211 08-26-2022 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3484508)
$320/ hour for the A320 needs to be the new industry minimum captain pay.

I'm working on a good #

#$320forthe320 ??


$737/hour for the B737 I know those Southwest Pilots made a lot of money.

OOfff 08-26-2022 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3484515)
$737/hour for the B737 I know those Southwest Pilots made a lot of money.

CRJ900 pilots are salivating at this idea

PNWFlyer 08-26-2022 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3484525)
CRJ900 pilots are salivating at this idea

CRJ is Canadian so it uses the metric system. So 900 is about $3.50 USD.

AYLflyer 08-27-2022 06:33 AM

All jokes aside, for years we were told seat numbers are what guide pay rates for aircraft. Well, clearly a 70 seater crew being paid close to, or more than some major airline counterparts squashes that argument. LCCs and majors need to step it up big time.

sailingfun 08-27-2022 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 3484738)
All jokes aside, for years we were told seat numbers are what guide pay rates for aircraft. Well, clearly a 70 seater crew being paid close to, or more than some major airline counterparts squashes that argument. LCCs and majors need to step it up big time.

Its a bandaid to allow a orderly shutdown and or vast reduction in the size of the regional airlines. It’s not sustainable as a business model. Tge process is already underway.

Aero1900 08-27-2022 07:03 AM

We always thought that fuel prices would kill the regionals, but it'll likely be the pilot shortage.

Unless they can survive the next 10 years then they can survive long term. The massive retirements at the legacies eventually slow down and the pilot shortage severity lessens

TransWorld 08-27-2022 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3484766)
We always thought that fuel prices would kill the regionals, but it'll likely be the pilot shortage.

Unless they can survive the next 10 years then they can survive long term. The massive retirements at the legacies eventually slow down and the pilot shortage severity lessens

I always said it would be a pilot shortage, per my crystal ball. My crystal ball has been pretty accurate. I was called an idiot. I was called crazy.


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