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Old 09-14-2022, 05:21 PM
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[QUOTE=CBreezy;3494825]Pew research says, you're wrong

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/03/20/1-trends-in-party-affiliation-among-demographic-groups/[/QUOTE]

In Pew Research Center surveys conducted in 2017…

I would say there has been just a little bit of change in the last five years.
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Old 09-14-2022, 05:25 PM
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Except it doesn't.

In this order: Business, Nursing, Psychology, Biology, Engineering, Education, Communications, Finance, Criminal Justice, Sociology, Compsci, English, Econ.

Post secondary degrees are mostly MBA, law, medical, engineering, and education
Except what doesn’t what? You provided data with no relevance to the conversation.
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Well, if Congress and/or the Executive intervene directly to prevent a strike, can I be the first to suggest that

"They just want to make the trains run on time?"


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Old 09-14-2022, 07:08 PM
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Anyone have any resource as regarding what the demands are for their new contract? I can't imagine the railways letting this happen, the costs will be astronomical unless they are hoping big daddy government steps in.
They are “on call” 24/7/365. ZERO DAYS OFF unless pre-approved Vacation. If you don’t get called, consider that your day off. The unions want 2 days off consecutive per week. They agree on the pay but want QOL. The railroads don’t want to have to hire thousands of employees to work the extra days off, costing them millions off their profit margins.
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They are “on call” 24/7/365. ZERO DAYS OFF unless pre-approved Vacation. If you don’t get called, consider that your day off. The unions want 2 days off consecutive per week. They agree on the pay but want QOL. The railroads don’t want to have to hire thousands of employees to work the extra days off, costing them millions off their profit margins.
and they haven’t had a meals and incidentals increase at UP since 1993. They get $12/day on the road. BNSF gets zero. And thanks to the TCJA, they can’t deduct expenses.

and their accommodations rules are insanely bad. Just the trashiest cheapest motels on earth.

and the new contract that some of the unions agreed to shifts more health insurance costs to the worker, negating their (sub-inflationary and years late) raises.
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“All the tentative deals are based closely on the recommendations of a Presidential Emergency Board Joe Biden appointed this summer that called for 24% raises … in a five-year deal that’s retroactive to 2020.”

1 rail union rejects deal, 2 accept ahead of strike deadline
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Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy View Post
“All the tentative deals are based closely on the recommendations of a Presidential Emergency Board Joe Biden appointed this summer that called for 24% raises … in a five-year deal that’s retroactive to 2020.”

1 rail union rejects deal, 2 accept ahead of strike deadline
pay without QOL protections isn’t worth it. If you literally don’t have a day off, what good is money?
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pay without QOL protections isn’t worth it. If you literally don’t have a day off, what good is money?
I wasn’t really trying to comment on their particular situation for the rail guys, specifically. Just trying to point out that the Emergency board floated a 24% raise. Might be a statistic of interest for those airlines that were considering mediation.
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Also idk what media y’all are watching but this has been hot on NPR, virtually every economics podcast, and many other media outlets for quite some time.
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Originally Posted by lbell View Post
They are “on call” 24/7/365. ZERO DAYS OFF unless pre-approved Vacation. If you don’t get called, consider that your day off. The unions want 2 days off consecutive per week. They agree on the pay but want QOL. The railroads don’t want to have to hire thousands of employees to work the extra days off, costing them millions off their profit margins.
Sounds like a 135 job from about 5 years ago.
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