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Originally Posted by Jdub2
(Post 3505794)
they did not prevent the strike
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3505828)
They sure helped prevent one. WH played both sides, IIRC they released the rail unions (to maintain labor-friendly position) but then did their best to mediate a deal to avoid a politically damaging strike and economic disruption.
the potential strike is delayed, not necessarily off the table, unless I missed member ratification already happening. |
Originally Posted by Zard
(Post 3505883)
the potential strike is delayed, not necessarily off the table, unless I missed member ratification already happening.
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Originally Posted by Zard
(Post 3505883)
the potential strike is delayed, not necessarily off the table, unless I missed member ratification already happening.
Ratification is in progress but it's multiple union groups, so while several have already ratified it's not a done deal. Kind of like if our contracts were bundled with FA's, mechanics, CSAs, and rampers... and all the other airlines. Potential hot mess. |
Garbage TA rates, what’s going on here?
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3505828)
They sure helped prevent one. WH played both sides, IIRC they released the rail unions (to maintain labor-friendly position) but then did their best to mediate a deal to avoid a politically damaging strike and economic disruption.
They actually never reached the point of being released. They agreed to a TA before the 30 day PEB deadline expired.
Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
(Post 3505938)
The railroad unions are currently voting on their TA. Obviously, if they reject it, a strike may be back on the table. If the timeline pushes the start of a strike past early November, I could see the current administration letting it happen. Although, that’s playing with fire.
The administration’s hand have been dealt. There is nothing, legally, they can do if the unions reject the TA, to prevent a strike. It would be up to congress at that point if they want to prevent a possible strike. |
The administration’s hand have been dealt. There is nothing, legally, they can do if the unions reject the TA, to prevent a strike. It would be up to congress at that point if they want to prevent a possible strike.
There is a difference between what administration’s legally can do and what often happens. If the union is told they aren’t released to self help, even though they have jumped through the legal hoops, they would then need to sue in Federal courts. This takes time and money. |
Originally Posted by Caveman
(Post 3503863)
Because in pattern bargaining, the floor was set this time around by the sub inflation AS rates, and there reliance on me-too catch up clauses. Let others do the heavy lifting was the over arching strategy there.
This set the floor from which everyone else is working from. |
Even if some aren’t happy with the rates, securing the me too clause provision helps. If the first two that went didn’t get this it just becomes that much more difficult to secure for the next carrier imo.
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Originally Posted by Texasbound
(Post 3506646)
Then why don't you set the bar and show us how it is done..
What AS has done this time is what it is. They've set the floor. And the rest will now have that inertia to overcome. It is what is. It'll be someone else next time around. Don't take my word for it. Ask any of the NCs thier opinions if the AS TA is a thrust or drag producing device. |
Originally Posted by RimonaGregie
(Post 3503881)
Because organized labor is weak and poorly understood? Pilots are unwilling to take risks needed for better agreements?
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