Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3507703)

Originally Posted by Hubcapped
You are insane. Literally

Even if your fantasy of nazis fighting for a Jewish president were true. If you actually had the United States best interests at heart, you would know that a weakened Russia only helps us in the long run. You are so childishly focused on “owning” the other party, you are literally advocating for a direct enemy of the untied states to win a contest that was of their own doing. The level of crazy here is insurmountable, and you have lost track of reality. Good luck


Hubcapped , 09-30-2022 11:16
No “chief” I haven’t asked them but since you said “it’s a pretty big deal for them” I figured you might, you know, ….have some insight. Or you could have just been spinning words, like you do.

By the way, how does our MEC lack initiative or strength of character or is irresponsible? How exactly would you get delta to come to the table? You never answered , and I can’t imagine someone with your integrity and knowledge would purposely evade a question that merely asked them to elaborate on their own stated viewpoints. Or you could just, you know, be full of words

Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 3507749)

It was considered fraud by executives, due to manipulation of prices in advance of exercising options at a lower price. Excess capital should be distributed to shareholders via the dividend.

Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 3507725)

I call bull****. You’d only say it if you had a physical advantage, and there is no way to discern that online tough guy

Usually people with the loudest mouth online are weak in the flesh

Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 3507725)

I call bull****. You’d only say it if you had a physical advantage, and there is no way to discern that online tough guy

Usually people with the loudest mouth online are weak in the flesh

Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 3507737)

Stock buybacks were once illegal, because they are fraud, however the Reagan administration made them legal in 1982 so here we are.

Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3507813)

So fraud IF they exercised options or otherwise used insider information for personal gain? I can see that. Trading on inside information, particularly when you are able to manipulate decisions that will affect stock price is illegal, well, except for members of Congress…

Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 3507919)

Executive compensation is, a lot of times, based on stock performance, so if you can manipulate the price, you don't have to actually perform for a company. I can't think of any situation where buy backs help investors in contrast to the dividend.

Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3507889)

Stock buybacks were considered illegal in the US for most of the 20th century due to stock price manipulation concerns.

Time to go back to the days before Rule 10b-18.

Pay the executives millions (if they deserve it or can negotiate it).

Use the profits generated by the company to either reward stockholders with dividends, employees for their efforts, or reinvest in the business.

The experiment has been tried; stock buybacks by CEO's to enhance the value of their stock options at the expense of everything else has been a colossal failure.