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727C47 06-29-2007 12:25 PM

737 type training recomendations ?
 
Looking for a good type school for the good old 737, I would like to hear personal recommendations if possible from guys,and girls who have gotten the type. Thank you in advance. And the search function still leaves something to be desired. Thank you.

HSLD 06-29-2007 12:47 PM

HPA: http://www.jetcrew.com/

Metal121 06-29-2007 12:57 PM

Flight Training International. Its the cheapest and its easy. Good folks work there.

C-17 Driver 06-29-2007 01:28 PM

http://crerwpilottraining.com

They have an opening for a 9 July start date. PM me if you want the details.

It's $7300. The class sizes are much smaller than higher power which some people prefer.

I'm doing the 737 type in that class.

LuvJockey 06-29-2007 01:56 PM

HPA was great. Excellent advice on resumes, etc. My highest recommendation.

zippy 06-29-2007 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by LuvJockey (Post 187395)
HPA was great. Excellent advice on resumes, etc. My highest recommendation.

I agree. I think their very close relationship with Southwest is a big plus, if you are targeting SWA.

Brownhound 06-29-2007 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by zippy (Post 187402)
I agree. I think their very close relationship with Southwest is a big plus, if you are targeting SWA.

Why? Is that what THEY told you. What a scam.

zippy 06-29-2007 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Brownhound (Post 187591)
Why? Is that what THEY told you. What a scam.

No. They don't claim any special relationship. But if you spent 2 weeks there I think you understand what I mean. As an example, my 7 member class has had 4 hired by SWA, 1 waiting for the next DB, and the other 2 interviewing in coming months.

Slice 06-29-2007 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Brownhound (Post 187591)
Why? Is that what THEY told you. What a scam.

No that's not what THEY tell you. It's that guys personal opinion. They do have good ties with the PD at SWA. A recruiter usually visits every class. It didn't do me any good, but the crew at HPA are good folks.

1Seat 1Engine 06-29-2007 07:58 PM

K&S in Phoenix has SWA come visit each class also.

If you want quick and inexpensive try lone eagle. loneeagleaviation.com kind of a firehose class but it was over in 6 days.

GhettoBeechjet 06-29-2007 08:09 PM

No personal experience but from my sources it depends on your situation. Assuming you are doing it for SWA If you have been hired and need to get in the pool quick and cheap is better. FTI seems to be the fastest and least expensive. If you are trying to get the interview HPA and K&S seem to be in a better position to help you out. I have heard nothing but good things from grads of all three schools. Also majority opinion seems to be there is no real advantage to getting the type in the 300/500 or NG versus the 200. Hope this helps.

Slice 06-29-2007 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by GhettoBeechjet (Post 187612)
No personal experience but from my sources it depends on your situation. Assuming you are doing it for SWA If you have been hired and need to get in the pool quick and cheap is better. FTI seems to be the fastest and least expensive. If you are trying to get the interview HPA and K&S seem to be in a better position to help you out. I have heard nothing but good things from grads of all three schools. Also majority opinion seems to be there is no real advantage to getting the type in the 300/500 or NG versus the 200. Hope this helps.

Sim type doesn't matter. Cheaper is generally better.

727C47 06-30-2007 06:14 AM

thank you all for the info, this helps immeasurably ,this is why I prefer this board to brand X.

razorseal 07-01-2007 10:13 AM

just curious how this works...

so you guys get your type rating, then what? don't ya have to go through your airline's training program (which gets you the type) rating? or thats not how it works? you need a certain type rating to fly for the airline?

also how much does getting a 737 type rating cost?

HuronIP 07-01-2007 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by razorseal (Post 188330)
just curious how this works...

so you guys get your type rating, then what? don't ya have to go through your airline's training program (which gets you the type) rating? or thats not how it works? you need a certain type rating to fly for the airline?

also how much does getting a 737 type rating cost?

SWA requires you to get the 737 type rating within 6 months of being hired. You then go through their training which is approx 6 weeks. The type rating costs anywhere from $4,400 - $7,300 depending on where you got to get it. If you were/are in the military and have the G.I. Bill that will pay for 60% of the cost.

Short Bus Drive 07-01-2007 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by razorseal (Post 188330)
just curious how this works...

so you guys get your type rating, then what? don't ya have to go through your airline's training program (which gets you the type) rating? or thats not how it works? you need a certain type rating to fly for the airline?

also how much does getting a 737 type rating cost?


The airline's training doesn't have to give you the type. I know at Spirit, EVERYONE gets it.
At Colgan, you didn't get the types until upgrade. (And then, NOT EVEN the single pilot one for the 1900).
At Hawaiian, at least awhile ago, when you did your "checkride", you had the choice if you wanted the type on the 767, or not.

Huggy Bear 07-01-2007 04:16 PM

I'll add my recommendation for Higher Power.

Falconjet 07-01-2007 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by HuronIP (Post 188384)
SWA requires you to get the 737 type rating within 6 months of being hired. You then go through their training which is approx 6 weeks. The type rating costs anywhere from $4,400 - $7,300 depending on where you got to get it. If you were/are in the military and have the G.I. Bill that will pay for 60% of the cost.

Technically, you are not HIRED until you are sitting in class with an ID badge and a huge grin on your face. You have 6 months after being notified of a contingent job offer to get the type so you can continue in the process.

Just a small point for clarification.

FJ

Riddler 07-02-2007 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by C-17 Driver (Post 187378)
http://crerwpilottraining.com

They have an opening for a 9 July start date. PM me if you want the details.

It's $7300. The class sizes are much smaller than higher power which some people prefer.

I'm doing the 737 type in that class.

I'm also doing the 737 type in this class. So far, I have been very impressed with these guys. They have been quick to answer all of my questions ranging from VA financing to systems questions.

727C47 07-02-2007 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by C-17 Driver (Post 187378)
http://crerwpilottraining.com

They have an opening for a 9 July start date. PM me if you want the details.

It's $7300. The class sizes are much smaller than higher power which some people prefer.

I'm doing the 737 type in that class.

Thank you amigo ,but I think we are going to go in another direction, God bless ,and kick butt in class !

HuronIP 07-02-2007 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Falconjet (Post 188544)
Technically, you are not HIRED until you are sitting in class with an ID badge and a huge grin on your face. You have 6 months after being notified of a contingent job offer to get the type so you can continue in the process.

Just a small point for clarification.

FJ

Thanks Falcon. I meant to say 6 months from the day you get the phone call from one of the Chief Pilot that you made it past the DB.

Bob_Sacamano 07-02-2007 08:45 PM

Wow, what an original thread. :-p




Originally Posted by 727C47 (Post 187324)
Looking for a good type school for the good old 737, I would like to hear personal recommendations if possible from guys,and girls who have gotten the type. Thank you in advance. And the search function still leaves something to be desired. Thank you.


mmcd858 07-03-2007 09:03 AM

goto crewpilottraining.com
Two of my friends and I just finished up last May. Small class, great guys very straightfoward and professional. We actually did the sims at DFW in the Alteon Building. I highly recommend them.
Cost was around $7300 not including hotel, food, gas, etc.
If you are military, you can get 60% paid for through the GI bill.

Ottopilot 07-03-2007 09:44 AM

I suggest a free type rating at an airline that pays for it instead of the pay for training airlines. :D

HuronIP 07-03-2007 10:42 AM

Oh, one of those airlines that filed bankruptcy? I guess the American taxpayers paid for those type ratings.

OscartheGrouch 07-03-2007 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 189628)
I suggest a free type rating at an airline that pays for it instead of the pay for training airlines. :D

......................:p

OscartheGrouch 07-03-2007 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by HuronIP (Post 189660)
Oh, one of those airlines that filed bankruptcy? I guess the American taxpayers paid for those type ratings.

Exactly! Nothing is "free" in this industry. Someone helped subsidize the type ratings during an airlines trip through bankruptcy. My how some forget.:rolleyes:

1Seat 1Engine 07-03-2007 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 189628)
I suggest a free type rating at an airline that pays for it instead of the pay for training airlines. :D

Which airline is that? Are they hiring? What do they pay? How's their future look?

Can't wait! Sounds too good to be true!

Deez340 07-03-2007 08:42 PM

I was riding in first class one day while talking with a very senior DAL captain's wife. (in early 2000) She said all of her husbands friends used to make fun of him because he worked at DAL and not Eastern like them. Something to think about. TWA, EAL, and Pan Am used to be the places to be. Makes you wonder about SWA, FEDex, and UPS in thirty years. i hope they do great but some of the comments i read from some SWA guys would give me pause.

OscartheGrouch 07-04-2007 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Deez340 (Post 189969)
I was riding in first class one day while talking with a very senior DAL captain's wife. (in early 2000) She said all of her husbands friends used to make fun of him because he worked at DAL and not Eastern like them. Something to think about. TWA, EAL, and Pan Am used to be the places to be. Makes you wonder about SWA, FEDex, and UPS in thirty years. i hope they do great but some of the comments i read from some SWA guys would give me pause.

Deez,

I will take this one for the SWA folks. I for one have heard the "I am not paying for my type rating" argument for too many years to count (20+). Frankly I just about puke when folks like Otto throw a grenade in the room like that which he did above. Most everyone should analyze where they are and be thankful as I am. You are correct that the industry will change but some should look back and see where they have come from (Otto's CAL for instance) before they butt in with a snide remark. When someone who began this thread was simply wanting:rolleyes: some info on a 737 type rating.

I have agreed with Otto on some things in the past but I couldn't let a cheap shot go unanswered. Everyone of my former Marine buddies who chose not to come to SWA has had to endure some delay/hardship or monetary sacrifice for refusing to pay for a type rating. One who I was hot to help out is so invested in his decision that he won't even admit that 5 years of furlough from UAL should have been traded for a rating instead. To me that suggests poor headwork and I would suggest he not try to come hear now.

Riddler 07-17-2007 03:14 PM

Just finished 737 type today!
 
I just finished my 737 type today, and I have nothing but outstanding reviews for Crew Pilot Training (www.crewpilottraining.com). Here's my observations:
- Background on me (& class partner): C-17 guys with approx 3,500 hrs, he had some previous C-21 time and I'm all C-17. All crew military jets, all glass flying.
- Class size was small - 2 737 type students and 1 737 annual proficiency training student who stayed for a few days.
- Pre-class prep: they mail you all the books. I really put in 80+ hours and in my opinion it paid off. Neal, Mitch, and Ray answered any questions that I had. My partner didn't have the time to put in as much studying as me, but he made it through the program with NO PROBLEMS.
- We had the same instructor (Mitch) all week. Mitch was absolutely phenomenal! He's a retired CAL 737 guy who has flown just about anything imaginable. In other words, he can relate to 737 & its systems to just about anything else that you have flown, and he did an amazing job in tayloring the instruction to our existing skills (C-17 guys with lots of glass time and little "steam gauge" time).
- Ground school: the days were long, but I never remember looking at my watch thinking "what time until lunch." Instead, the days were packed with info but went by very quickly, and when we were done, I couldn't believe how late it was. Mitch is a funny guy who really knows his stuff and sets a great tone. We did ground school in a room in our hotel (CPT rents an additional room and has it set up with a large conference table, 737 panels, etc.) You can't get any more convenient than this!
- After a few days, we started mixing ground school and simulators. I don't think Higher Power does this, but I really liked it since it gave us the chance to immediately re-inforce the classroom instruction with hands-on application.
- Flying: we did our training in the 737-300 sim at Alteon in Dallas. We had 1 sim in the -300 EFIS due to a MX problem in the -300 sim.
- Hotel: CPT arranged for a $50/day deal at a local Hilton. However, the hotel is changing owners so CPT may end up elsewhere. But they took care of all the reservations.
- Checkride: no surprises, Mitch made sure we were well prepared. The check ride is a very busy profile, so you'll never hear me say that it was easy. However, the CPT instructors and syllabus make sure you're set up for SUCCESS! Plus, the evaluator (Neal) is a great guy who really put us at ease so we had no excuses for not performing to our best.

Crew Pilot Training gets my absolute highest recommendation. PM me for any details!

Riddler


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