Pan Am hiring info??
Hey fellas! I was just curious if anyone had any information on Pan Am such as their mins, hiring info, pay, etc etc.... I haven't been able to find any info on them and I dont see Pan Am mentioned at all on the forums. HSLD, maybe we should get some info about them on the Central website. Thanks a million guys!! :)
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Pan Am Clipper Connection is hiring Jetstream pilots with the following minimum qualifications:
Captain: ATP with 1st Class Medical 3500 Total Time (PIC), 1000 hours PIC in Multi Engine aircraft with 250 Hours Turbine experience First Officer: Commercial/instrument/multi rating and able to obtain 1st Class Medical Required 1200 Total Time (PIC) and 100 Multi-Engine PIC experience. -who with 1200 hours would pass up a job flying a beat up old jetstream back and forth from bedford to elmira and trenton 15 times per day....not that I wouldnt fly a jetstream because it beats a 172sp |
I would stay away from PanAm III.
They started with 727s based in Portsmouth, NH. About two years ago they fired all the union pilots and offered to hire them back at a fraction of their original rates. Real class operation tarnishing a once great name in aviation. |
Originally Posted by Pilotpip
(Post 194641)
I would stay away from PanAm III.
They started with 727s based in Portsmouth, NH. About two years ago they fired all the union pilots and offered to hire them back at a fraction of their original rates. Real class operation tarnishing a once great name in aviation. |
Originally Posted by blastboy
(Post 194810)
I know, Pan Am has really been stripped of its dignity. My brother in law, who now flies for frontier, flew 727's for Pan Am III out of Sanford about 5 years ago. He was one of the union pilots fired. Too bad Pan Am isn't what it use to be. I asked him about the latest on Pan Am but he hasn't kept tabs on that airline since he left. I wonder though, are they still flying 727's out of Sanford?
Personally I would rather see the name rest in peace. It wasn't enough that the grand airline was sold off piecemeal, i guess it wasnt enough for the portsmouth operation to carry on the legacy with ridiculous fashion and now i guess they are metaphorically still raping the name with a part III out of yet another new airport, with much older equipment and the same clowns running the show. rest in peace PAN AM. |
Originally Posted by cac737
(Post 194851)
Ok, if your brother in law flew for them, got canned, and they are still the same company, flying pax in 727s, to no real set markets and are the version III.......do you really want to work for this company? Perhaps there is a reason why there is no info on it.
Personally I would rather see the name rest in peace. It wasn't enough that the grand airline was sold off piecemeal, i guess it wasnt enough for the portsmouth operation to carry on the legacy with ridiculous fashion and now i guess they are metaphorically still raping the name with a part III out of yet another new airport, with much older equipment and the same clowns running the show. rest in peace PAN AM. |
Originally Posted by Pilotpip
(Post 194641)
I would stay away from PanAm III.
They started with 727s based in Portsmouth, NH. About two years ago they fired all the union pilots and offered to hire them back at a fraction of their original rates. Real class operation tarnishing a once great name in aviation. |
Originally Posted by cac737
(Post 194851)
Personally I would rather see the name rest in peace. It wasn't enough that the grand airline was sold off piecemeal, i guess it wasnt enough for the portsmouth operation to carry on the legacy with ridiculous fashion and now i guess they are metaphorically still raping the name with a part III out of yet another new airport, with much older equipment and the same clowns running the show.
rest in peace PAN AM. In fact if pilots did not talk half of the crAAp flying jobs out there just maybe our over all quality of live and pay would go up as a group. But instead they are jumping on this type of work hoping to one day win the lottery. We need to stick together and stop these types of operations but we do not. "It is all about me":( but the sad fact is WE ALL PAY in the long run. :( |
Originally Posted by blastboy
(Post 194620)
Hey fellas! I was just curious if anyone had any information on Pan Am such as their mins, hiring info, pay, etc etc.... I haven't been able to find any info on them and I dont see Pan Am mentioned at all on the forums. HSLD, maybe we should get some info about them on the Central website. Thanks a million guys!! :)
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Originally Posted by flaps 9
(Post 194921)
Shouldn't this be on the Regionals or Upstarts board? It's been a long time since Pan Am was a major..
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Originally Posted by blastboy
(Post 195095)
I couldn't decide which it was. Its not really an upstart and not a regional. Anyway, I was just curious to see if anyone had any information on them.
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Pan Am is hiring pilots for a new CTL base to accommodate the NASCAR pit teams. The interviews are being conducted at Sanford FL to which you need to spend your own $$$ to get there for the privilege of working for another bottom feeder company… golly gee.
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Was not really paying attention,(But a friend of mine during a recent phone call mention this:) but I think an outfit called "Ready-Jet-Go" out of Atlanta is looking to hire 727 crews for Nascar flying, they are using the Boston-Maine certificate. "Ready-Jet-Go" is in the same building and using the same equipment of the late TransMeridian Airlines.
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I can confirm that there are two Pan Am 727's sitting at the FBO in CLT. Sounds like a true rumor.
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My brother has a close friend that once flew for Pan Am III. Avoid them! They are only operating Jetstreams for now and the 727s are only being used for charter operations. Stay away!
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Originally Posted by timman19
(Post 196615)
My brother has a close friend that once flew for Pan Am III. Avoid them! They are only operating Jetstreams for now and the 727s are only being used for charter operations. Stay away!
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My father was a 747 captain for Pan Am. Needless to say, he is totally disgusted with this version.
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Also (I forgot to mention this in my last post), I met a Pan Am III 727 crew in Bermuda a few years ago. Not a happy crew to say the least. The FO told me he was doing that until something better came along. He seemed like a nice guy so hopefully he landed on his feet.
They actually had a route network at one time with most of their flights going to Sanford using 727s. They served secondary airports such as Portsmouth, NH, Gary, IN, Bangor, ME and even MidAmerica Airport. They were and still are horribly managed. They fired all of their union guys a few years ago. That resulted in a lawsuit in which the company prevailed. They transferred their operations to Boston-Maine which was a feeder for Pan Am III 727s and they now serve a few cities in the northeast using Jetsreams. On a final note, Guilford Transportation, a railroad company that bought the airline out of bankruptcy, changed its name to Pan Am Railways. If you live in the northeast, as I do, sometimes you will see a freight car painted blue and with the Pan Am logo in white. |
Tim, we all know this PA in no way resembles the true aviation pioneer and American Icarus that the original PA was. When I read this thread's title, I was like---"WHO?"
They'll always find somebody to fill their slots. They always do. |
So let me et this straight...a member of your family got screwed by this sleazeball operation. And you're looking for information about how to get hired there?!?!??! Wtf? Pilots never cease to amaze me...
Originally Posted by blastboy
(Post 194810)
I know, Pan Am has really been stripped of its dignity. My brother in law, who now flies for frontier, flew 727's for Pan Am III out of Sanford about 5 years ago. He was one of the union pilots fired. Too bad Pan Am isn't what it use to be. I asked him about the latest on Pan Am but he hasn't kept tabs on that airline since he left. I wonder though, are they still flying 727's out of Sanford?
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Originally Posted by Bob_Sacamano
(Post 196990)
So let me et this straight...a member of your family got screwed by this sleazeball operation. And you're looking for information about how to get hired there?!?!??! Wtf? Pilots never cease to amaze me...
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Hey Blastboy,
Usually when someone asks on this board or any other board for that matter about info regarding an airline or place, its usually because they at least fishing around to see who is hiring what, how many and when. I don't know about others, but for me...it kinda bothers me that the name is still around (in miserable fashion) and just hate that a once proud name and worldwide icon has been taken so low. I also thought you wanted info and was looking to see if they were hiring, but you corrected me. well....on to something NOT depressing.....lol |
Originally Posted by cac737
(Post 198441)
Hey Blastboy,
Usually when someone asks on this board or any other board for that matter about info regarding an airline or place, its usually because they at least fishing around to see who is hiring what, how many and when. I don't know about others, but for me...it kinda bothers me that the name is still around (in miserable fashion) and just hate that a once proud name and worldwide icon has been taken so low. I also thought you wanted info and was looking to see if they were hiring, but you corrected me. well....on to something NOT depressing.....lol I agree with you that Pan Am should just rest easy. Sorry for not making that clear. I have fond memories of the crew at the training academy, the flights to everywhere and jumpseating with dad on occasion. What a great group of people that was!! All I wanted, growing up, was to fly right seat with Captain dad on the 747 out of MIA. If they were still in business, that's where I would be right now. Darn it all! Sometimes it saddens me to death to think that all those years of anticipation to work for the best airline in the world evaporated like water in '91. I sometimes still read the old training manuals, look at pictures and chat with dad over a beer about how great it was to be a part of Pan Am. I even keep an original Pan Am crew tag on my trusty little flight bag. I could go on forever about my memories of Pan Am. >sigh< Sure do miss her. |
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