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blastboy 07-12-2007 05:29 PM

Pan Am hiring info??
 
Hey fellas! I was just curious if anyone had any information on Pan Am such as their mins, hiring info, pay, etc etc.... I haven't been able to find any info on them and I dont see Pan Am mentioned at all on the forums. HSLD, maybe we should get some info about them on the Central website. Thanks a million guys!! :)

usmc-sgt 07-12-2007 05:48 PM

Pan Am Clipper Connection is hiring Jetstream pilots with the following minimum qualifications:

Captain:
ATP with 1st Class Medical
3500 Total Time (PIC), 1000 hours PIC in Multi Engine aircraft with 250 Hours Turbine experience

First Officer:
Commercial/instrument/multi rating and able to obtain 1st Class Medical Required

1200 Total Time (PIC) and 100 Multi-Engine PIC experience.


-who with 1200 hours would pass up a job flying a beat up old jetstream back and forth from bedford to elmira and trenton 15 times per day....not that I wouldnt fly a jetstream because it beats a 172sp

Pilotpip 07-12-2007 05:54 PM

I would stay away from PanAm III.

They started with 727s based in Portsmouth, NH. About two years ago they fired all the union pilots and offered to hire them back at a fraction of their original rates. Real class operation tarnishing a once great name in aviation.

blastboy 07-13-2007 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 194641)
I would stay away from PanAm III.

They started with 727s based in Portsmouth, NH. About two years ago they fired all the union pilots and offered to hire them back at a fraction of their original rates. Real class operation tarnishing a once great name in aviation.

I know, Pan Am has really been stripped of its dignity. My brother in law, who now flies for frontier, flew 727's for Pan Am III out of Sanford about 5 years ago. He was one of the union pilots fired. Too bad Pan Am isn't what it use to be. I asked him about the latest on Pan Am but he hasn't kept tabs on that airline since he left. I wonder though, are they still flying 727's out of Sanford?

cac737 07-13-2007 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by blastboy (Post 194810)
I know, Pan Am has really been stripped of its dignity. My brother in law, who now flies for frontier, flew 727's for Pan Am III out of Sanford about 5 years ago. He was one of the union pilots fired. Too bad Pan Am isn't what it use to be. I asked him about the latest on Pan Am but he hasn't kept tabs on that airline since he left. I wonder though, are they still flying 727's out of Sanford?

Ok, if your brother in law flew for them, got canned, and they are still the same company, flying pax in 727s, to no real set markets and are the version III.......do you really want to work for this company? Perhaps there is a reason why there is no info on it.

Personally I would rather see the name rest in peace. It wasn't enough that the grand airline was sold off piecemeal, i guess it wasnt enough for the portsmouth operation to carry on the legacy with ridiculous fashion and now i guess they are metaphorically still raping the name with a part III out of yet another new airport, with much older equipment and the same clowns running the show.

rest in peace PAN AM.

blastboy 07-13-2007 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by cac737 (Post 194851)
Ok, if your brother in law flew for them, got canned, and they are still the same company, flying pax in 727s, to no real set markets and are the version III.......do you really want to work for this company? Perhaps there is a reason why there is no info on it.

Personally I would rather see the name rest in peace. It wasn't enough that the grand airline was sold off piecemeal, i guess it wasnt enough for the portsmouth operation to carry on the legacy with ridiculous fashion and now i guess they are metaphorically still raping the name with a part III out of yet another new airport, with much older equipment and the same clowns running the show.

rest in peace PAN AM.

Never said I wanted to fly for them. I simply wanted some inside information about them. Again, my brother in law couldn't provide any up to date info because he hasn't flown with them since 04. If there's info on GoJet at APC, I'm sure info on Pan Am wouldn't hurt.

1Seat 1Engine 07-13-2007 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 194641)
I would stay away from PanAm III.

They started with 727s based in Portsmouth, NH. About two years ago they fired all the union pilots and offered to hire them back at a fraction of their original rates. Real class operation tarnishing a once great name in aviation.

How is that legal? And wouldn't pilot unions band together to blacklist or sanction against any pilot who worked for a company like that?

NoWake200 07-13-2007 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by cac737 (Post 194851)
Personally I would rather see the name rest in peace. It wasn't enough that the grand airline was sold off piecemeal, i guess it wasnt enough for the portsmouth operation to carry on the legacy with ridiculous fashion and now i guess they are metaphorically still raping the name with a part III out of yet another new airport, with much older equipment and the same clowns running the show.

rest in peace PAN AM.

Very well said!

In fact if pilots did not talk half of the crAAp flying jobs out there just maybe our over all quality of live and pay would go up as a group. But instead they are jumping on this type of work hoping to one day win the lottery. We need to stick together and stop these types of operations but we do not.

"It is all about me":( but the sad fact is WE ALL PAY in the long run. :(

flaps 9 07-13-2007 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by blastboy (Post 194620)
Hey fellas! I was just curious if anyone had any information on Pan Am such as their mins, hiring info, pay, etc etc.... I haven't been able to find any info on them and I dont see Pan Am mentioned at all on the forums. HSLD, maybe we should get some info about them on the Central website. Thanks a million guys!! :)

Shouldn't this be on the Regionals or Upstarts board? It's been a long time since Pan Am was a major..

blastboy 07-13-2007 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by flaps 9 (Post 194921)
Shouldn't this be on the Regionals or Upstarts board? It's been a long time since Pan Am was a major..

I couldn't decide which it was. Its not really an upstart and not a regional. Anyway, I was just curious to see if anyone had any information on them.

flaps 9 07-13-2007 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by blastboy (Post 195095)
I couldn't decide which it was. Its not really an upstart and not a regional. Anyway, I was just curious to see if anyone had any information on them.

No worries.....It's an old joke left over from FI.....Ask Tony C

captjns 07-14-2007 12:08 AM

Pan Am is hiring pilots for a new CTL base to accommodate the NASCAR pit teams. The interviews are being conducted at Sanford FL to which you need to spend your own $$$ to get there for the privilege of working for another bottom feeder company… golly gee.

Sonny Crockett 07-14-2007 04:49 AM

Was not really paying attention,(But a friend of mine during a recent phone call mention this:) but I think an outfit called "Ready-Jet-Go" out of Atlanta is looking to hire 727 crews for Nascar flying, they are using the Boston-Maine certificate. "Ready-Jet-Go" is in the same building and using the same equipment of the late TransMeridian Airlines.

IronWalt 07-14-2007 05:26 AM

I can confirm that there are two Pan Am 727's sitting at the FBO in CLT. Sounds like a true rumor.

timman19 07-16-2007 01:12 PM

My brother has a close friend that once flew for Pan Am III. Avoid them! They are only operating Jetstreams for now and the 727s are only being used for charter operations. Stay away!

blastboy 07-16-2007 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by timman19 (Post 196615)
My brother has a close friend that once flew for Pan Am III. Avoid them! They are only operating Jetstreams for now and the 727s are only being used for charter operations. Stay away!

I think that just about sums it up. Pan Am three is not for me. :D

timman19 07-16-2007 04:36 PM

My father was a 747 captain for Pan Am. Needless to say, he is totally disgusted with this version.

timman19 07-16-2007 04:59 PM

Also (I forgot to mention this in my last post), I met a Pan Am III 727 crew in Bermuda a few years ago. Not a happy crew to say the least. The FO told me he was doing that until something better came along. He seemed like a nice guy so hopefully he landed on his feet.

They actually had a route network at one time with most of their flights going to Sanford using 727s. They served secondary airports such as Portsmouth, NH, Gary, IN, Bangor, ME and even MidAmerica Airport. They were and still are horribly managed.

They fired all of their union guys a few years ago. That resulted in a lawsuit in which the company prevailed. They transferred their operations to Boston-Maine which was a feeder for Pan Am III 727s and they now serve a few cities in the northeast using Jetsreams.

On a final note, Guilford Transportation, a railroad company that bought the airline out of bankruptcy, changed its name to Pan Am Railways. If you live in the northeast, as I do, sometimes you will see a freight car painted blue and with the Pan Am logo in white.

B757200ER 07-16-2007 07:41 PM

Tim, we all know this PA in no way resembles the true aviation pioneer and American Icarus that the original PA was. When I read this thread's title, I was like---"WHO?"


They'll always find somebody to fill their slots. They always do.

Bob_Sacamano 07-16-2007 11:20 PM

So let me et this straight...a member of your family got screwed by this sleazeball operation. And you're looking for information about how to get hired there?!?!??! Wtf? Pilots never cease to amaze me...




Originally Posted by blastboy (Post 194810)
I know, Pan Am has really been stripped of its dignity. My brother in law, who now flies for frontier, flew 727's for Pan Am III out of Sanford about 5 years ago. He was one of the union pilots fired. Too bad Pan Am isn't what it use to be. I asked him about the latest on Pan Am but he hasn't kept tabs on that airline since he left. I wonder though, are they still flying 727's out of Sanford?


blastboy 07-17-2007 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Bob_Sacamano (Post 196990)
So let me et this straight...a member of your family got screwed by this sleazeball operation. And you're looking for information about how to get hired there?!?!??! Wtf? Pilots never cease to amaze me...

I'll assume you didn't read the previous posts because you would have seen that I merely wanted information and expressed I wasn't looking for a job there. I have no intention of working there. I was just curious to see what Pan Am III is like these days, that's it. My questions have been answered and I'm finished with the topic. I would be crucified by a few family members from Pan Am numero uno if I ever worked at Pan AM III. I guess my topic title was a bit misleading. That's my fault and I apologize.

cac737 07-19-2007 10:41 AM

Hey Blastboy,

Usually when someone asks on this board or any other board for that matter about info regarding an airline or place, its usually because they at least fishing around to see who is hiring what, how many and when. I don't know about others, but for me...it kinda bothers me that the name is still around (in miserable fashion) and just hate that a once proud name and worldwide icon has been taken so low.

I also thought you wanted info and was looking to see if they were hiring, but you corrected me. well....on to something NOT depressing.....lol

blastboy 07-19-2007 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by cac737 (Post 198441)
Hey Blastboy,

Usually when someone asks on this board or any other board for that matter about info regarding an airline or place, its usually because they at least fishing around to see who is hiring what, how many and when. I don't know about others, but for me...it kinda bothers me that the name is still around (in miserable fashion) and just hate that a once proud name and worldwide icon has been taken so low.

I also thought you wanted info and was looking to see if they were hiring, but you corrected me. well....on to something NOT depressing.....lol

Yes, I was just curious as to what their standards are, pay, etc. By no means do I seek employment by them. Just curiosity to kill the cat and nothing more. Dad and several uncles (all ex 727 and 747 Pan Am) would have my a$$ if they even found out I was asking about this. :o HeeHee? Makes me feel better that dad doesn't have an account on here now. :D

I agree with you that Pan Am should just rest easy. Sorry for not making that clear. I have fond memories of the crew at the training academy, the flights to everywhere and jumpseating with dad on occasion. What a great group of people that was!! All I wanted, growing up, was to fly right seat with Captain dad on the 747 out of MIA. If they were still in business, that's where I would be right now. Darn it all! Sometimes it saddens me to death to think that all those years of anticipation to work for the best airline in the world evaporated like water in '91. I sometimes still read the old training manuals, look at pictures and chat with dad over a beer about how great it was to be a part of Pan Am. I even keep an original Pan Am crew tag on my trusty little flight bag. I could go on forever about my memories of Pan Am. >sigh< Sure do miss her.


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