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AllYourBaseAreB 12-30-2024 02:00 AM


Originally Posted by united20 (Post 3865820)
Any legacy pilots commuting from/to Asia?

Luckily, you can commute via non rev or hichhiking on cargo flts thesedays,

But How do you manage your pbs bidding to make your life and commute the most effectively?

Of course, a decent seniority has to come in to play a little bit.

Recently flew with a junior guy commuting to Japan. He hopes to bid for large blocks of days off on reserve and possibly match them together in the interface between months. Theoretically getting you 20-22 days off in a row for one commute leg per month. At AA you have to contend with coverage dates that will often torpedo this plan though, some months worse than others.

sailingfun 12-30-2024 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by MrIceCreamMan (Post 3829264)
I'd love to do exactly this one day, probably many years from now. Having lived in Europe for six years, I enjoy the pace of life and the feeling of safety much better.

There are thousands of places to live in the US that are just as safe as Europe if not more so.

Khantahr 12-30-2024 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3865887)
There are thousands of places to live in the US that are just as safe as Europe if not more so.

Whether they actually are or not, many large cities in Europe FEEL safer than counterparts in the US, which is what the person you quoted said. Small towns and rural areas are are more similar to each other.

Recliner 12-30-2024 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by united20 (Post 3865820)
Any legacy pilots commuting from/to Asia?

Luckily, you can commute via non rev or hichhiking on cargo flts thesedays,

But How do you manage your pbs bidding to make your life and commute the most effectively?

Of course, a decent seniority has to come in to play a little bit.

No offline international on Brown.

rickair7777 12-30-2024 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3865887)
There are thousands of places to live in the US that are just as safe as Europe if not more so.

If safety is your concern there are numerous nice places in the US, big and small, to fit the bill. You don't need to do an international commute for that (might be other reasons).

banned 01-03-2025 07:03 PM

About to start commuting from Asia. Luckily my base is only 3 timezones away and I can get my schedule to about 11-12 days in a row every month.

disenchantMINT 01-11-2025 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3827754)
Not to be crass, but.......

1) Commuting is a "choice", I did it just over 20 years

2) In 25 years, airlines have gone from minimal, if any commuter policies to actually pretty decent ones, but......

Why would an international commute policy be different than a domestic one? It's STILL a "choice".

At a previous airline the commuter policy in the contract only covered CONUS commuting. OCONUS and you're on your own for accounting for missed trips. That might be why it is different. Definitely good to know the specifics of each contract's commuting section before attempting a long haul commute.

Floy 01-15-2025 08:59 AM

I commuted from Germany to a major western US hub for 2 years. German wife wanted to try it out after living in the USA so I went with it. I was quite senior and able to fine tune my schedule almost any way I wanted. Also had flight bennies on multiple airlines plus almost unlimited ZEDs. Takeaways:

1) Much easier if you live in a gateway. I did not and the commute after landing in Europe was up to an extra 3-6 hours as a result. If I did it again i'd live close to FRA, CDG, AMS, LHR, maybe MUC and thats about it. The rest dont have enough frequency for me.

2) I always spent 3ish days recovering from time change at home. Even though I bid early morning work, my body knew the difference when I shut the drapes at 5pm with the sun shining bright and lay awake for hours without being able to sleep. No real solution I found over two years to get decent sleep.

3) I spent an average of around $300 on taxes and fees. Sometimes more for a ZED and train tickets. No matter how you commute out of Europe, I dont know of a way to avoid the taxes. Brittain is horribly expensive, Germany not so much less. Add the other fees in and I had a significant addition cost to my monthy budgets.

4) I was more physically affected than I expected. I got biz class about half to 2/3 of the time and still there was an effect. But sitting in the back middle seat from SFO to FRA for 11 hours over and over again has its effects on your back, neck, ass, and other things I wont go into here. No way around this one either.

After two years my wife assessed and decided she's prefer a healthy husband to a zombie and we moved back. I wouldn't do it again unless I was working one 4-7 day trip per month and no more. It'll have to wait until I retire at which time I'll likely expat and leave forever. If I cant wait that long I'll retire early and escape the great USA. Hope that helped.

symbian simian 01-15-2025 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Floy (Post 3871283)
I commuted from Germany to a major western US hub for 2 years. German wife wanted to try it out after living in the USA so I went with it. I was quite senior and able to fine tune my schedule almost any way I wanted. Also had flight bennies on multiple airlines plus almost unlimited ZEDs. Takeaways:

1) Much easier if you live in a gateway. I did not and the commute after landing in Europe was up to an extra 3-6 hours as a result. If I did it again i'd live close to FRA, CDG, AMS, LHR, maybe MUC and thats about it. The rest dont have enough frequency for me.

2) I always spent 3ish days recovering from time change at home. Even though I bid early morning work, my body knew the difference when I shut the drapes at 5pm with the sun shining bright and lay awake for hours without being able to sleep. No real solution I found over two years to get decent sleep.

3) I spent an average of around $300 on taxes and fees. Sometimes more for a ZED and train tickets. No matter how you commute out of Europe, I dont know of a way to avoid the taxes. Brittain is horribly expensive, Germany not so much less. Add the other fees in and I had a significant addition cost to my monthy budgets.

4) I was more physically affected than I expected. I got biz class about half to 2/3 of the time and still there was an effect. But sitting in the back middle seat from SFO to FRA for 11 hours over and over again has its effects on your back, neck, ass, and other things I wont go into here. No way around this one either.

After two years my wife assessed and decided she's prefer a healthy husband to a zombie and we moved back. I wouldn't do it again unless I was working one 4-7 day trip per month and no more. It'll have to wait until I retire at which time I'll likely expat and leave forever. If I cant wait that long I'll retire early and escape the great USA. Hope that helped.

I worked 10 on, 5 off, living in DC, working in Spain for 6 years. All but 1 year 2 leg commute. Honestly didn't feel that bad to me at the time, when I was 30. Don't think I could do it now.

united20 01-16-2025 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by banned (Post 3867306)
About to start commuting from Asia. Luckily my base is only 3 timezones away and I can get my schedule to about 11-12 days in a row every month.

Where in Asia?
I dont see any Asian region where only 3 time zones away even from the westcoast.
or Am I just dumb?
Enlighten me please.


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