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Old 07-21-2007, 04:03 PM
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This was close, ya'll be careful out there!

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NTSB Identification: OPS07IA006A
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of DELTA AIRLINES INC DFW BASE MAINTENANCE
Incident occurred Wednesday, July 11, 2007 in Fort Lauderdale, FL
Aircraft: Boeing 757-232, registration: N6714Q
Injuries: 172 Uninjured.


This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On July 11, 2007, at 1437 Eastern daylight time a runway incursion occurred at the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood Airport, (FLL), Fort Lauderdale, Florida between United (UAL) flight 1544, an A-320 and Delta Airlines (DAL) flight 1489, a Boeing 757. The incident occurred in day visual flight rules conditions, visibility 10 miles, scattered clouds at 4,800 feet.

The FLL ground controller (GC) instructed UAL1544 to taxi to runway 9L via taxiway T7. As the flight was taxiing on taxiway D near runway 9L, the tower local controller (LC) noticed the airplane was going too fast to hold short of the runway. LC told the GC to tell UAL to stop. The GC said "UAL 1544 stop, stop, stop". The crew stopped on runway 9L, 30 feet from the centerline.

DAL1489 was inbound for landing on runway 9L when LC determined that UAL1544 was not going to hold short of the runway. LC instructed DAL1489 to go around. When the crew received the instruction, the main landing gear was on the ground. According to the crew statement, they noted the urgency in the controller's voice so they knew they had to get the aircraft airborne. FAA reported DAL1489 flew over UAL1544 by less than 100 feet.

According to the FAA, the UAL crew stated they missed the turn onto taxiway B.

FLL air traffic control tower is not equipped with either AMASS or ASDE-X. All airport lighting was functioning normally.


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Old 07-21-2007, 04:23 PM
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Wheewy! I was getting cold sweats when reading that report. That's intense.
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Wheewy! I was getting cold sweats when reading that report. That's intense.
me too... missed by 100' feet but united had no hold clearance.
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So perhaps some remedial training on taxing for the UAL crew?
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Has the media gotten ahold of this yet?
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it was on one of the national networks nightly news programs last week, ABC I think.
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Old 07-21-2007, 06:12 PM
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Yes, the media has reported this although I'm guessing that it's off the radar because nobody was injured/killed.

The reason I posted this was to highlight that:
  • The NTSB reported over 300 runway incursions nationwide in 2006
  • Not all runway incursion hotspots are charted (TWY D and RWY 9L in FLL is not).
As pilots, we're the last line of defense - but typically the first to be blamed in any event that results in bent metal despite the chain of causal factors. I'll save judgment on this one until the final report is submitted.

Thankfully the Delta jet had enough energy to go flying again - that crew saved the day and so much more.

Consider your own schedule: month after month of short layovers, long duty days, busy airports, summer weather, etc.... There are a number of common factors working against flight crews and I'd venture to say that we are all at risk of making a blunder, or being on the receiving end of one.

Be careful out there.

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but united had no hold clearance.
They were instructed to taxi to 9L. That implies that they may cross any other runway besides 9L. The hold short clearance is implied, but their cleared route to 9L would've never crossed 9L.
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Originally Posted by Bri85 View Post
me too... missed by 100' feet but united had no hold clearance.
They were told to Taxi To..... in other words get to the runway but dont get on it.. noticed they were not told to Position and Hold on said runway or given a takeoff clearance so the Taxi to a perticular runway implies a Hold short....
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Originally Posted by HSLD View Post
Yes, the media has reported this although I'm guessing that it's off the radar because nobody was injured/killed.

The reason I posted this was to highlight that:
  • The NTSB reported over 300 runway incursions nationwide in 2006
  • Not all runway incursion hotspots are charted (TWY D and RWY 9L in FLL is not).

Ever fly into LGB? That place is a circus for runway incursions. SNA too. I've been asked to go around at SNA 3 times; 2 of those times was in the same attempts to land. LOL I wonder what's going on in the tower sometimes.
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