UAL Pilot Hiring Update 07/30/2007

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07-31-2007, 10:55 AM

#11

P-Funk

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Position: KC-135 IP, 76T FO

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C-17 Driver

I felt somewhat "vindicated" when Delta contacted me for an interview. (5 Sep interview date) At least someone wants to take a closer look at me!

When did you submit our app for Delta? I'm still waiting.

-P

07-31-2007, 11:22 AM

#12

WatchThis!

Da Man

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Position: DC-10 F/O

Posts: 436

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambourne

Sure ALL airlines have issues. However, UAL has been very fortunate to not have suffered a crew caused hull loss in many many years.

It's through dumb luck, not lack of trying my friend. UAL has luckily dodged several catastrophic events in recent memory that could-have, should have been avoided if the pilots were paying attention or had the required skill to deal with the problem. To stand on your safety record of "no crew-related hull losses" is only lying to yourself.

My point was that despite safety records, we are all exposed to the same risks and the outcomes aren't necessarily a result of superior airmanship. Of course I'd rather be lucky than good any day too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambourne

If it is such a crappy job then why be disappointed in a rejection email?

I'm sure the recipient wasn't too distraught. I was only poking fun at an organization that's so dysfunctional that it can't provide a real email address when they reject them. Talk about integrity!

07-31-2007, 11:30 AM

#13

Was That For Us?

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That's hard to believe United sends out such unprofessional correspondence, WatchThis. Then again, with the management you all have, it's not surprising

07-31-2007, 11:49 AM

#14

WatchThis!

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Position: DC-10 F/O

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Originally Posted by Was That For Us?

Then again, with the management you all have, it's not surprising

You mean "they" have! I'm happy where I am (and it's not UA)

07-31-2007, 12:34 PM

#15

CaptainMark

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Joined APC: Mar 2006

Position: FDX A300 CPT

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambourne

Can you name a pax carrier with a similar record that is not based in one of the baltic states?

dude..you come off like a tool!!! you must be fun to fly with..i have heard about guys like u over there..md11phlyer explained his comment...lighten up francis!

Last edited by CaptainMark; 07-31-2007 at 01:44 PM.

07-31-2007, 01:10 PM

#16

MaydayMark

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Position: MD-11 Captain

Posts: 4,304

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambourne

Really different eh? I have flown plenty of tags out of NRT on the 400 ( you know the 4 engine jet, that your competition operates) so yes I am familiar with Asia flying, South America and Europe.

Let's see here ...

FDX 12 year MD-11 Capt. $220/hr (BTW - We have lots of 12 year widebody Capts.)
UAL 12 year 747 (you know, the 4 engine jet) $184/hr
UAL 12 year A320 Capt. (are there really any 12 year 747 Capt's?) $133/hr

FDX 25 year MD-11 Capt. A plan = $125,000/yr pension + B Plan
UAL 25 year 747 Capt. (you know, the 4 engine jet) PBGC plan = ~$23,000/yr

So ... isn't your entire issue really about penis envy? But at least you guys fly safely ...

Regards,

Mark

07-31-2007, 01:41 PM

#17

cactusdog16

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Position: 737 Capt

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainMark

United Air Lines 10 Oct 1933 Chesterton, Indiana Boeing 247-D
United Air Lines 07 Oct 1935 Near Cheyenne, Wyoming Boeing 247D
United Air Lines 30 Oct 1935 Cheyenne, Wyoming Boeing B-247-D
United Air Lines 27 Dec 1936 Newhall, California Boeing 247-D
United Air Lines 09 Feb 1937 Off San Francisco, California Douglas DC-3A
United Air Lines 17 Oct 1937 Haydens Peak, Wyoming Douglas DC-3
United Air Lines 24 May 1938 Cleveland, Ohio Douglas DST-A-207A
United Air Lines 29 Nov 1938 Off Point Reyes, California Douglas DC 3-A-SB-3-G-14
United Air Lines 04 Nov 1940 Near Centerville, Utah Douglas DC-3
United Air Lines 04 Dec 1940 Chicago, Illinois Douglas DC-3A
United Air Lines 01 May 1942 Salt Lake City, Utah Douglas DST-A-207A
United Air Lines 31 Jan 1946 Mt. Elk, Wyoming Douglas DC-3-194H
United Air Lines 08 Oct 1946 Cheyenne, Wyoming Douglas DC-4
United Air Lines 11 Nov 1946 Cleveland, Ohio Douglas DC-3 (C-53D-DO)
United Air Lines 29 May 1947 La Guardia Airport, Queens, New York Douglas C-54B
United Air Lines 24 Oct 1947 Bryce Canyon, Utah Douglas DC-6
United Air Lines 17 Jun 1948 Mount Carmel, Pennsylvania Douglas DC-6
United Air Lines 28 Apr 1951 Fort Wayne, Indiana Douglas DC-3
United Air Lines 30 Jun 1951 Rocky Mountain Nat. Park, near Ft. Collins, Colorado Douglas DC-6B
United Air Lines 24 Aug 1951 Decoto, California Douglas DC-6B
United Air Lines 12 Sep 1951 Off Redwood City, California Boeing 377 Stratocruiser 10-34
United Air Lines 04 Dec 1951 Denver, Colorado Douglas DC-3A
United Air Lines 19 Jan 1955 Des Moines, Iowa Convair CV-340
United Air Lines 04 Apr 1955 Islip, New York Douglas DC-6
United Air Lines 06 Oct 1955 Near Centennial, Wyoming Douglas DC-4
United Air Lines 01 Nov 1955 Longmont, Colorado Douglas DC-6B
United Air Lines 30 Jun 1956 Grand Canyon, Arizona Douglas DC-7 / Lockheed S Constellation
United Air Lines 21 Apr 1958 Near Sloan, 10 miles SW of Las Vegas, Nevada Douglas DC-7 / F-100F
United Air Lines 16 Dec 1960 Staten Island / Brooklyn, New York MD DC-8-11 / Lockheed 1049 S Const
United Air Lines 11 Jul 1961 Denver, Colorado McDonnell Douglas DC-8-12
United Air Lines 23 Nov 1962 Ellicott, Maryland Vickers Viscount 745D
United Air Lines 08 Jul 1964 Knoxville, Tennessee Caravelle VIR
United Air Lines 09 Jul 1964 Parrottsville, Tennesee Vickers Viscount 745D
United Air Lines 16 Aug 1965 Lake Michigan, near Chicago, Illinois Boeing B-727-22
United Air Lines 11 Nov 1965 Salt Lake City, Utah Boeing B-727-22
United Air Lines 18 Jan 1969 Off Los Angeles, California Boeing B-727-22QC
United Air Lines 08 Dec 1972 Chicago, Midway Airport, Illinois Boeing B-737-222
United Air Lines 18 Dec 1977 Near Salt Lake City, Utah Douglas DC-8-54F
United Air Lines 28 Dec 1978 Portland, Oregon McDonnell Douglas DC-8-61
United Air Lines 11 Jan 1983 Detroit, Michigan McDonnell Douglas DC-8-54F37
United Air Lines 24 Feb 1989 Honolulu, Hawaii Boeing B-747-122
United Air Lines 19 Jul 1989 Sioux City, Iowa McDonnell Douglas DC-10-10
United Air Lines 03 Mar 1991 Near Colorado Springs, Colorado Boeing B-737-291
United Air Lines 28 Dec 1997 Over the Pacific Ocean Boeing B-747-122

and to answer your question...UAL!

Capt Mark:

Just curious as to why you didn't include the 2 hull losses on 9/11 on your list? Your list already includes several terrorist-related losses as well as many mechanical failures.

"There but for the grace of God go I."

This whole thread should be deleted.

07-31-2007, 01:43 PM

#18

Freight Dog

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Position: 747-400 captain

Posts: 1,383

Guys, can we please get back to the topic of this thread, which is UAL's hiring? Thanks.

07-31-2007, 01:44 PM

#19

CaptainMark

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Position: FDX A300 CPT

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what list?...talk to lambourne about this thread!!!!!!!!!!

07-31-2007, 03:14 PM

#20

md11phlyer

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Position: Nordskog Industries Field Technician

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambourne

Really different eh? I have flown plenty of tags out of NRT on the 400 ( you know the 4 engine jet, that your competition operates) so yes I am familiar with Asia flying, South America and Europe. Seems that several of FedEx crashes have happened during daylight hours in the ol US of A. (MEM MD10, EWR MD11, TLH B727). I am not sure how many have happened outside the US. At any rate that is a significant number of crashes in a short period of time. Can you name a pax carrier with a similar record that is not based in one of the baltic states?

If you are too tired to fly a safe airplane then you should not accept the flight. Maybe that is the difference, the UAL pilots have the orbs to say NO to an unsafe condition. I hope the UPS pilots are more concerned about safety than FE because I am going to start shipping all my stuff on them in hopes of my items arriving without being turned upside down and burned.

As to the benefit situation. Didn't you guys just recently get a B fund?

Good god man, relax. If you read my post you would see that I'm all for you guys getting back on your feet and getting back what you deserve. Then I made a little joke. Now take a deep breath, you'll never make it to 65 with that little temper of yours.

If blindly attacking people is your M.O. I suggest you jump over to www.flightinfo.com. You'll find plenty of disgruntled guys to internet fight with.

And if you want to ship UPS I actually suggest doing so, so long as you don't care when it gets there.

Disclaimer: (please reference little winky guy as indication of joke made to my UPS brethren, it is not my intention for said winky guy to induce rage nor reference accident records of any U.S. airline, winky guy and joke made purely in good fun and jest, UPS and FedEx both excel equally at global domination in the shipping industry.) Ahh, there.

Now back to the scheduled programming, what is the time frame for classes at UAL?

Last edited by md11phlyer; 07-31-2007 at 03:15 PM. Reason: Re-edit so angry UAL guy doesn't have heart attack and have to retire early