FAR 117 Revision
 

FAA looking at significant changes...

https://www.altitudesmagazine.com/fa...b-flags-14-ne/

Targeted for 2028.

April fools? I can’t find this anywhere else?

It came from ALPA. Unless maybe they got played? Didn't really read like April fools, seemed pragmatic, no Onion vibe. Not proposing 30 hour rest after each leg.

Doesn't seem that significant. FAR 117 already limits you to 3 consecutive WOCL intrusions unless given a 2 hour rest break in a suitable accommodation. This just mandates a 30 hour reset.

The 220 hour duty in 168 is pretty significant. That actually seems ludicrous.

It's not 220 in 168, but rather 220 flight duty period hours within a rolling 672-hour (28-day) window.

You would have to work twenty out of twenty-eight days while averaging 11hrs/day to hit that limit. Restricting pilots to less than one third of their life in an airplane doesn't seem too unreasonable.

"Airlines for America estimated the proposed 30-hour reset requirement could require 4,800 to 8,000 additional pilot hires. The Regional Airline Association said the duty-hour cap would disproportionately impact short-haul regional operators."

I misread it. Thanks

Regional air carriers are against their pilots not living in the cockpit!!! I’m shocked, shocked I say.

Meanwhile, cargo pilots be like

https://i.imgflip.com/ao6av2.jpg

No!

Any other other questions?

It's not on FAA.GOV nor the Federal Register. I haven't seen any ALPA email that contains this.

4/1/26

Who ASAPs a 8 second snoozer in cruise
same gal who wrote up the Southwest crew?

Everyone just relax. They’re still not touching the elephant in the room: Commuting Fatigue.

I am a “don’t fix what isn’t broken” kind of guy.
So … what exactly is broken?

(or am I an April fool)

I saw this before I came here. I see I am not the only one to glance at the date and raise an eyebrow. I have no idea of it's a joke or not. But it's annoying that people think it's fun to make stuff up in vain of news on this day to the point I have to quadruple the sensitivity of my bull**** sensor.

It isn't short segments that cause long duty days; it's the ridiculous sits between them. Time to get back to efficiency.

You guys know this was an April fools joke, right?

seriously. How does she know it was 8 seconds? Shoulda coordinated the nap and gone for 8 minutes…

AI slop my boy

Who falls for this crap?

Well ALPA did. Since that's where the email came from.

I have seen zero formal comms from ALPA regarding this fake NPRM.

Probably one council or individual MEC. We didn’t see it at UAL, either.

I looked at each individual LEC's recent communications, as well as the MEC. Zero mention of an FAA NPRM. No NPRM on the FAA RGL. It's fake news.

It was in the daily newsblast email from National, on Apr 1.

I don't think they intended it as a prank, those are usually over the top outrageous. It's possible ALPA staff got played?

Aren’t those AI compilations? Could be, but hopefully there’s a human filter.

The article says they're instituting an FFP limit of 220 hours in 28 days.

117 already has a 190 hour FDP limit in the same period.

I asked my reps about it, they're aware of the article and there is no formal endorsement from ALPA. They say it's a bad April fool's article, or AI slop.

I've been getting those emails for many years, never seemed like AI. Especially since AI didn't exist years ago.

I noticed the article itself wasn't great journalism, but I had assumed that since it came from ALPA that it was at least factual if not well written.

Maybe the staffer relied on AI to do their job. Hopefully they supervise better in the future.

ALPA doesn’t make those e-mails. It’s a company called bulletin intelligence.

At the end of the day, all remote work is at risk of AI.