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Leadership Book
Hey all,
Looking for solid leadership books for airline captains, especially around working with the newer generation of FOs. Cockpit dynamics have shifted—more collaborative, more questioning (good for safety), but also different expectations around communication and authority. Trying to get better at balancing approachability with clear command. Interested in books that actually translate to the flight deck, like:
Any recommendations that actually worked for you in the left seat? |
If you're going to do a Tony Kern book, I recommend "Redefining Airmanship" over "Flight Discipline". I read both and found the former to cover all the content of the latter plus much more. "Flight Discipline" felt like a long drawn out chapter and IMO doesn't really warrant it's own book. I also enjoyed "Aircraft Command Techniques" by Sal Fallucco.
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Originally Posted by BlueDream
(Post 4032293)
Hey all,
Looking for solid leadership books for airline captains, especially around working with the newer generation of FOs. Cockpit dynamics have shifted—more collaborative, more questioning (good for safety), but also different expectations around communication and authority. Trying to get better at balancing approachability with clear command. Interested in books that actually translate to the flight deck, like:
Any recommendations that actually worked for you in the left seat? go slow, dont be a d1ck, safety first. Easy peesy. drop the captain hammer as a last recourse. Never as your first tool to resolve an “issue”. And once your off airport property you’re just 2 people on a work trip. Your authority does not exist other than dont be a bad example on how to behave. |
Just do the opposite of every bad captain youve ever had and call it a day. Pay for beer.
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
(Post 4032409)
dont be a d1ck
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If you're gonna be weird, be weird in a cool/fun way.
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
(Post 4032409)
dude youre already overthinking it lol. Just be chill, no politics/religeon, dont micro manage, dont push your technique, and let people fly the way they want to fly. Unless the jet is departing a safe flight path just shut up and let them do what they want. Yes vertical speed or boards are ok. Its ok to drop the gear too soon etc…
go slow, dont be a d1ck, safety first. Easy peesy. drop the captain hammer as a last recourse. Never as your first tool to resolve an “issue”. And once your off airport property you’re just 2 people on a work trip. Your authority does not exist other than dont be a bad example on how to behave. It's really not that hard of a job, and it certainly doesn't require, except under rare circumstances, an entire book to do it right. |
Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
(Post 4032418)
Just do the opposite of every bad captain youve ever had and call it a day. Pay for beer.
Originally Posted by Hubcapped
(Post 4032409)
dude youre already overthinking it lol. Just be chill, no politics/religeon, dont micro manage, dont push your technique, and let people fly the way they want to fly. Unless the jet is departing a safe flight path just shut up and let them do what they want. Yes vertical speed or boards are ok. Its ok to drop the gear too soon etc…
go slow, dont be a d1ck, safety first. Easy peesy. drop the captain hammer as a last recourse. Never as your first tool to resolve an “issue”.
Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
(Post 4032418)
And once your off airport property you’re just 2 people on a work trip. Your authority does not exist other than dont be a bad example on how to behave.
Originally Posted by CX500T
(Post 4032524)
If you're gonna be weird, be weird in a cool/fun way.
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
(Post 4032409)
dude youre already overthinking it lol. Just be chill, no politics/religeon, dont micro manage, dont push your technique, and let people fly the way they want to fly. Unless the jet is departing a safe flight path just shut up and let them do what they want. Yes vertical speed or boards are ok. Its ok to drop the gear too soon etc…
go slow, dont be a d1ck, safety first. Easy peesy. drop the captain hammer as a last recourse. Never as your first tool to resolve an “issue”. And once your off airport property you’re just 2 people on a work trip. Your authority does not exist other than dont be a bad example on how to behave. |
Originally Posted by CX500T
(Post 4032524)
If you're gonna be weird, be weird in a cool/fun way.
The quickest route to adventure is pairing with a cohort. End chapter 1. |
There was a Dakar trip where all 3 of us rented dirtbikes and went on a 3 day desert safari. I miss the old 6 day Dakar trip.
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Easy reads to start, and among the books I've gifted the most:
Sinek, Leaders Eat Last Dale Carnegie, How to Win Friends and Influence People |
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
(Post 4032589)
What about when you have a difficult FO that we frequently have at SWA because of the long upgrade, single fleet type and repetitive flying nature of our airline. I’ve experienced a larger percentage of A-holes in the right seat than the left. The OP has a legitimate concern.
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
(Post 4032589)
Well yes, sort of. That’s my general approach. What about when you have a difficult FO that we frequently have at SWA because of the long upgrade, single fleet type and repetitive flying nature of our airline. I’ve experienced a larger percentage of A-holes in the right seat than the left. The OP has a legitimate concern.
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In my case most around me are normal. Which makes me the weird captain.
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The best book I've ever read on leadership was "The Caine Mutiny" by Herman Wouk (1951).
More bangers in that book about leadership (not the movie, which was fun, but it was not the book) than anything else I've ever read. “You can’t understand command till you’ve had it. It’s the loneliest, most oppressive job in the whole world. It’s a nightmare, unless you’re an ox. You’re forever teetering along a tiny path of correct decisions and good luck that meanders through an infinite gloom of possible mistakes.” (My favorite quote is about spurious radio transmissions from junior officers, but there are plenty of great ones.) |
Fighter Pilot: The Memoirs of Legendary Ace Robin Olds
I’m a civvy guy, great read on the WWII and Vietnam Nam flying, but also great examples of leadership in many other instances. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4032574)
"Hey man, I'm going to hit up this great brothel tonight if you want to come along." In fairness it was in rural NV, so legal.
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Just watch classic Star Trek.
Be Kirk. |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 4032994)
Just watch classic Star Trek.
Be Kirk. I don't know about that in this day and age, don't think HR would appreciate his "leadership" technique with some of the staff... |
Always send Red Shirts for the walkaround.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 4032994)
Just watch classic Star Trek.
Be Kirk. “Let’s beam down to the planet so I can find an alien to fall in love with before the program is over.” Also: “Speed limitations are more of loose guidelines, not hard limits.” |
These are the voyages of the star…holy crap Sulu, you got the light pole.
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Not aviation books per se but leadership:
Extreme Ownership by Willink Wearing the “C” about Hockeys best Captains. An Astronauts Guide to Life on Earth by Hadfield |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 4032994)
Just watch classic Star Trek.
Be Kirk. |
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