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Gunfighter 08-22-2007 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by sully606 (Post 219295)
If you've been hired by Delta welcome aboard.

There is no contractual time limit. You have to be readily available for short call which can be different for different bases. Long call is 12 hours. It is generally assumed that two hours is a reasonable distance in normal traffic but if they call you out during rush hour three hours my be the best you can do and thats ok. You are correct that living within two hours from one of the airports is all that is required.

I read somewhere that Intl reserve was a 24 hr notice. Did I miss interpret something? How does the conversion from long call to short call work? Do you have 12 hours to report for short call or is it an instant conversion?

acl65pilot 08-23-2007 04:49 AM

It is a 24 hr call out window. When you are on short call it is 24 hrs long. The will not make you fly a domestic rotation after 12 of the 24 hrs. If they call you for a int'l rotation I believe it is a 12 hr call out ( IE must have rest of 12 hrs for ensuing duty period)

sully606 08-23-2007 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 219766)
It is a 24 hr call out window. When you are on short call it is 24 hrs long. The will not make you fly a domestic rotation after 12 of the 24 hrs. If they call you for a int'l rotation I believe it is a 12 hr call out ( IE must have rest of 12 hrs for ensuing duty period)

First in anwser to Gunfighter's question:

Assignment to short call requires a 10 hour notice. Add the two hour (unofficial) report and you have 12 hour call like a long call assignment.

Being called out on a domestic trip (rare) requires compliance with the Whitlow letter for crew rest. That's why domestic short call is only 12 hours.

Short call on international is normally 24 hours usually from 1300-1300. There is no requirement to comply with the Whilow letter so they can use the Intl. pilot for an intl. trip more liberally. I have been assigned one trip while on short call for next-day flying. The sign-in was 1505 so they took me off shortcall at 0300 which gave me 12 hour rest for the trip.

I talked with the Chief pilot last week and they said they are considering going to 12 hour short call for various reasons. There doesn't seem to be any contractual restriction to keep them from doing this and personally this would be a good thing.


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