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Old 09-06-2007, 04:53 PM
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I spoke with some senior management folks at CAL, 1,200 new-hires and over 130 have quit. What has been your experience? What do you think of our future?
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:06 PM
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I spoke with some senior management folks at CAL, 1,200 new-hires and over 130 have quit. What has been your experience? What do you think of our future?
Thats not good numbers, had a 756 F/O the other day who jumpseated with us to CVG say he had an interview with DAL coming up...............CAL has been the only one hiring recently so some that want to live in base may pursue other options, United, NWA, and DAL may be a better option, or I could be completely clueless as well. To me it is crazy to leave CAL, well DAL seems like a good move, getting on with the beginning of hiring and the pay is much better, but NWA, and United I dunno, but I talk to commuters and they say living in base is worth it to them, CAL's hubs arent the greatest except for a Jersey boy like myself...............

(They should Hire me with no PIC TURBINE, I cant leave
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:23 PM
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That's not good numbers, had a 756 F/O the other day who jumpseated with us to CVG say he had an interview with DAL coming up...............CAL has been the only one hiring recently so some that want to live in base may pursue other options, United, NWA, and DAL may be a better option, or I could be completely clueless as well. To me it is crazy to leave CAL, well DAL seems like a good move, getting on with the beginning of hiring and the pay is much better, but NWA, and United I dunno, but I talk to commuters and they say living in base is worth it to them, Cal's hubs are the greatest except for a Jersey boy like myself...............

(They should Hire me with no PIC TURBINE, I cant leave
I started another post about this issue. I think that the lack of respect at CAL is probably the mitigating factor in the resignations. The class of 1983-85 don't really seem to need respect. I don't know how many times I've heard Captains say "that's just the way the company is" as an excuse for not standing up for the crew. On my first trip after IOE, I flew with a captain and asked her about a line issue, she told me that she was not an instructor and "they should have taught you that on IOE". I had a lot more PIC turbine time than she but couldn't help feel sorry for her. No ambition or understanding about Captain's authority or privilege. A strong leader/captain can overcome this resignation, but all can't. Respect is a big problem at CAL. Hope we can fix that.
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I spoke with some senior management folks at CAL, 1,200 new-hires and over 130 have quit. What has been your experience? What do you think of our future?
A320,

did the sr mgt folks say any more about why they thought 10% of the new hires were bailing? I'm mainly curious if they think the factors are external (hiring picking up at other airlines) or internal (the guys just didnt like CAL)
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I have a friend who is planning on leaving after 2 years at CAL! He can hold CA in EWR on this bid!
He says he doesn't like how separated the pilot group is, plus the bases - he'd really like to move back to the West Coast.
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I have a friend who is planning on leaving after 2 years at CAL! He can hold CA in EWR on this bid!
He says he doesn't like how separated the pilot group is, plus the bases - he'd really like to move back to the West Coast.
The separation of the pilot group manifest itself in almost all aspects of the job. If I were 10 years younger, I'd seek greener pastures. The equipment, growth and time to upgrade is remarkable. And I'm hopeful that a little.....lot of new blood is the ingredient we need to get some sort of respectable existence. Barring that, we'll be merging into someone else's list before I retire. That will suck for everybody, but we might actually get a union with some teeth. TWT
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A320,

He is 34. Would you go to Delta at 34?
I think he is crazy, but it is a family matter..

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He is 34. Would you go to Delta at 34?

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Nope. Coming to CAL @ 35 was a risk.
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Nope. Coming to CAL @ 35 was a risk.
I was older than that. What's the risk? Do younger people have no risk?
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I spoke with some senior management folks at CAL, 1,200 new-hires and over 130 have quit.
I was hearing 20-25% by the end of the first year. By that assumption, 10.8% isn't bad.
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