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Old 09-19-2007, 06:39 AM   #1  
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So during upgrade at a regional I busted my check ride but passed the subsequent ride. Does anyone know of similar people who've been hired by the majors?
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:52 AM   #2  
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So during upgrade at a regional I busted my check ride but passed the subsequent ride. Does anyone know of similar people who've been hired by the majors?
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Never have but there have been plenty who made it to the majors. Probably a matter of when, where, and why. The longer ago it was the less it will matter.
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Old 09-19-2007, 07:27 AM   #3  
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It is not a show stopper. Don't get defensive, explain in detail, have recommendation letters from that company. It happens.
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Old 09-19-2007, 07:45 AM   #4  
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B757200ER is correct.

Even those folks who have not busted a ride would be well served to get a LOR from a Line Check Airman, of Chief Pilot. Those LOR's seem to carry a lot of weight when interviewing at a new employer.
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Busted my initial 121 upgrade check ride in '01, and passed two days later. Currently swimming in the pool at Southwest and UPS (although not yet hired by either), so I would guess it does not matter much. Never even came up at UPS. SWA did ask if I ever failed a check ride, and simply wanted any relavent details. Be truthful and don't sweat it.
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I busted a part 91 F/E ride with the FAA in 1985 and got interviews in 1989 with UPS, CAL, and World. You will always get asked about it. Have a great story about how you learned from the experience and how you are better for it, now. That's what they want to hear.
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I busted a part 91 F/E ride with the FAA in 1985 and got interviews in 1989 with UPS, CAL, and World. You will always get asked about it. Have a great story about how you learned from the experience and how you are better for it, now. That's what they want to hear.
....and also how it won't happen again....
Don't get stressed about it. Don't expect sympathy but instead show them your maturity. You'll do fine.
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I busted a checkride before getting picked up with SWA. When asked about it during the interview, I explained what happened and left it at that. We talked about the incident for all of 30 seconds.
I wouldn't try to talk about about how you've learned SO MUCH from the experience and how you're SO much of a better pilot because of it. It makes you look like you're trying to hard. Just answer the "Have you failed a checkride" question and move on...

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I guess it can depend. But some airlines know that certain other airlines have unusually high check ride failures and don't even bother with it.

Case in point, my former employer had a huge pink rate on the CRJ. Well over 50%, and some classes maybe only one or two guys passed the first time around. Of course, there were the usual reasons. Guys not studying enough, guys having bad attitudes, just plain having a bad day in the sim, etc. However, the training department was notorious for making the CA ride overly difficult. You had to be Chuck freak'n Yeager/Neil Armstrong to get through it unscathed. Some of it had to do with the ego of the guys in the training department. Many guys started referring to it as the "pink badge of courage" if they transitioned into the CRJ. I know one guy that had a 7 hour ride, and yes, he passed. Examiner never bothered to combine maneuvers. You know, like when you do a V1 cut, to a single approach, to a single engine go around, it takes care of 3 maneuvers in a relatively short amount of time. But come on, 7 hours?

When these guys were interviewing at the majors in 2000-2001, it was never even an issue for some. In fact, I remember some guys saying it was never even brought up in the interview. Or, the interviewer commented that that they have seen a lot of applicants from that airline with pink slips, and left it at that.
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