ryane946

I was looking at pilot pay charts for the majors. Most of them end at 12 years. If you stay on the same aircraft in the same seat after 12 years at the company, does your pay still continue to increase, or does seniority not matter for pay after 12 years??
Thanks

dogpilot

how does a controller talk about anyone being overpaid, that is funny!!

conc26

Tell me more about my hours, pay and work. I already know yours.

LAfrequentflyer

international CA/FO 125K/100K
domestic CA/FO 100K/75K
regional CA/FO 75K/50K

those are max numbers after 12 years with company. starting pay will be 15% / 25% percent lower.

-LA

jdt30

I do know that an air traffic controllers job is stressful, and I appreciate everything they do, but I have never spent a day in a controllers shoes. So, no I don't fully understand your work hours, pay, and work. Now other than talking to friends that are pilots about their jobs do you really fully understand the ups and downs of being a pilot. Trust me I get tired of hearing people whine about pay, and I'm as guilty as the next guy, but saying someone doesn't deserve a certain salary is pretty elitist.

de727ups

"Tell me more about my hours, pay and work. I already know yours"

You get paid extra for holidays, nights, and Sundays. I don't.

I was at LA TRACON in the mid-80's with the desire for an ATC career. All the guys I worked with, who were making 100K in 85, encouraged me to get back into flying. Smartest thing I ever did.

I have a friend who's FPL at SEA tower. Does a lot of training. Been in that biz about as long as I've been in mine. He makes about what I do as a 15 year F/O at UPS.

Capts make more. What's the price for being away from home half the time?

Not sure I understand where you're coming from. You have a skill set that pays very well. I have a skill set that pays very well. I left ATC for the chance to do better. Why didn't you? You might want to walk a mile in my shoes before you complain about what I make....

conc26

The majority of my friends fly for a living, most with the airlines. I've been a pilot for 20+ years, tons of ratings, including aircraft dispatcher, not to mention 20+ years as a controller. I know both sides very well, and being a pilot is a highly skilled job, no argument there. I get paid well, I don't complain about it. My post wasn't about who has the most important job as there are many important jobs, and all jobs in aviation, if done incorrectly can be bad news. Talk to a mechanic at a major and see how many stories he has about catching a potentially serious problem that wasn't outlined in the manual. That's a very important job also. I specifically made mention of the 160k+/yr as excess for time spent for work. Maybe 10 days a month, sometimes more? Yeah, probably away from home also. Also a lot of time off, a lot of money. Compare it to other highly skilled jobs and the pay is in excessive. Some I know will think they are never paid enough.

de727ups

"I've been a pilot for 20+ years, tons of ratings"

Any type ratings. Any experience as an airline pilot 135 or 121?

"Compare it to other highly skilled jobs and the pay is in excessive"

Excessive is in the eye of the beholder. I'd disagree with you on that.

"Maybe 10 days a month, sometimes more?"

At least 12, sometimes more.

Maybe you should get your airline pilot friends who think they are overpaid and underworked to post here.

conc26

If you make 160k+/yr as a controller today, in general you have 15+ years, work at a high-density facility and get your ass kicked everyday, live in a big city with a 45 minute to 1 hour drive TO and FROM work every day, get a lot of 2 hour holdover shifts making your 8 hour shift closer to 10 and your 10 hour shifts closer to 12 and your probably working mandatory 6 day workweeks including nights and quick turn-arounds to midnight shifts. 6 day workweeks gives you 4 days off every month. 4 non-consecutive days off every month. Show me 1 pilot who does that for 160k/yr.

conc26

No type ratings.