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Old 06-16-2007, 11:15 PM
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I don't work for either but I hear alot of the complaints. If the East guys don't like the arbitrators decision, they have the right to pick up their toys and go home. To disrupt customers travel itineraries (tactics are well known) for the sake of their &%$#^@ selfish desires says alot. It shows how pathetic those guys are. Get over it. At least you have a job.

AW should have let Airways go out of business for one day, expire all of the labor contracts and sat back watching all of the Airways, unemployed, employees come crawling back asking to be stapled to the bottom.

Sorry if this is inflamatory. I just finished a discussion with an Airways guy that thought the aquisition was a merger and the list should have been DOH.

It was like Bush, etc telling us the current immigration bill isn't amnesty. UGH!
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Old 06-17-2007, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Spanky189 View Post
I don't work for either but I hear alot of the complaints. If the East guys don't like the arbitrators decision, they have the right to pick up their toys and go home. To disrupt customers travel itineraries (tactics are well known) for the sake of their &%$#^@ selfish desires says alot. It shows how pathetic those guys are. Get over it. At least you have a job.

AW should have let Airways go out of business for one day, expire all of the labor contracts and sat back watching all of the Airways, unemployed, employees come crawling back asking to be stapled to the bottom.

Sorry if this is inflamatory. I just finished a discussion with an Airways guy that thought the aquisition was a merger and the list should have been DOH.

It was like Bush, etc telling us the current immigration bill isn't amnesty. UGH!
i agree with you on the amnesty bit, however, this sounds like flame bait? you work for neither, so why do you care? sounds like you are swa? mind your own bidness!
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Old 06-17-2007, 06:13 AM
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A merger is not complete unless everybody is ticked off. Both groups wanted to completely screw the other, East wanted date of hire which would have been a stapler (more or less) and West wanted a ratio to ensure the West guys made out like bandits... The seniority lists were so differently made up a merger is difficult at best. I am glad I am watching from the sidelines.

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Old 06-17-2007, 08:02 AM
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I don't work for either, but did a lot of JSing on both during that time period. The cactus guys seemed way more reasonable in their expectations, the AAA guys just wanted to staple HP.
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i agree with you on the amnesty bit, however, this sounds like flame bait? you work for neither, so why do you care? sounds like you are swa? mind your own bidness!
If I were to mind my own "bidness", then I wouldn't be on this site. And if you were to mind your own "bidness", then you wouldn't have responded to my post. Pretend you have a brain cell and respond to the post. You sound like you work for UAL.

I do care cuz the Airways guys don't seem to realize who saved whom. They are all for screwing the AW guys for their own agenda. Fact is that their management sucked, they were on the brink of going out of business, etc.
Binding arbitration is just that. Suck it up.
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:55 AM
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mind your own bidness!
I for one would mind my own biz if the East guys didn't cause pax delays. I have been on 2 of them in the last 3 weeks. Super slow taxi and waiting to start engines until the tug is completely disconnected, letting multipile corp jets cut in front, etc etc. Even though I don't work there, their actions have begun to impact me. And before you ask, yes I was one a full fare ticket and not j/s-ing
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:47 AM
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AW did not save US Airways. And if they were a part of a package deal that saved US Airways, they surely weren't alone. What about the two so-called "Regional" carriers whose management ponied up tens of millions of dollars of exit financing? Maybe you think the pilots of those two companies should have seniority numbers? How high up the list? Maybe I should be on top of the list because my company ponied up some critical money. How 'bout that? Were you fighting for me in that aribration? I don't think so.

Go find a hobby or something instead of coming on an internet forum and whining about something like this and being inflamatory.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:04 AM
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AW did not save US Airways. And if they were a part of a package deal that saved US Airways, they surely weren't alone. What about the two so-called "Regional" carriers whose management ponied up tens of millions of dollars of exit financing? Maybe you think the pilots of those two companies should have seniority numbers? How high up the list? Maybe I should be on top of the list because my company ponied up some critical money. How 'bout that? Were you fighting for me in that aribration? I don't think so.
Sooo.. You claim that AW didn't save Airways.. But they may have been involved in a package deal (to save Airways).. There may have been 2 regionals that helped save Airways...(and your job, by the way),. Okay....

Then comes the true, concern... Your seniority number and how this aquisition affected you. Priceless!
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:23 AM
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I do care cuz the Airways guys don't seem to realize who saved whom.

David Bonderman and the Texas Pacific Group. That's who.

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