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Green Banana 11-05-2007 12:30 PM

Horizon has all HUDS. Dash 8 200/400. CRJ 700. That's Seattle for you.

328dude 11-05-2007 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by 7576FO (Post 258078)
The American Airlines HUD is BAE. Only used on the 737-800 which is the only 737 we have.

For one of the posters above,

HUD's are useful because it/they eliminate the daily autopilot/autoland confidence checks by maintenance that are time consuming for maintenance. At least that is what I was told.
Generally, HUD's installed are a half a million dollars.
At AA they are mandatory for use on T/O to help against tail-strikes since we do Flaps 1 T/O's for better second segment climbs (if i remember properly).

Do you guys do alot of Flaps 1 takeoff's? We can do them here, but it's extremely rare.

7576FO 11-06-2007 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by 328dude (Post 258284)
Do you guys do alot of Flaps 1 takeoff's? We can do them here, but it's extremely rare.


That's all we do. Except SNA. I flew it (the 737) a long time ago here. But I always see them still taking off Flaps 1. And with Flaps 1 the HUD helps avoid tailstrikes.

Ottopilot 11-06-2007 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 257945)
So, why the problem with CAL not having HUD's?

So, why do you think I have a problem with CAL not having them? I could care less.

ewrbasedpilot 11-06-2007 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 257934)
So CAL is the only one without them? I'm not surprised.

What would a normal person infer from this comment? It "appears" to slam CAL for not having the HUD on its planes (maybe that we're too "cheap"?). So which would you rather have: CAT IIIA or HUD? I'd prefer the CAT IIIA autoland status equipment myself............:rolleyes:

Raging white 11-06-2007 07:19 AM

Wouldn't you rather have both?, like SWA, DAL, and Alaska?

ewrbasedpilot 11-06-2007 09:30 AM

There gets to be a point where having both is just too much info. Our planes already have the most up to date avionics. That's like saying we'd like to have the electronic flight bags in addition to our Jepps.............;)

bbjpilot 11-06-2007 09:40 AM

HUD info
 
Our BBJ has the Flight Dynamics HGS 2350. You can contact FD at (503) 684-5384 and ask to purchase the HGS Pilot Guide for the Boeing 737 Hud model you want info on.

good luck let me know if there is any info you would like out of the guide I have..

james

ChinsFive 11-06-2007 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 258703)
There gets to be a point where having both is just too much info. Our planes already have the most up to date avionics. That's like saying we'd like to have the electronic flight bags in addition to our Jepps.............;)

If they already have the most "up to date avionics" why don't you guys use the bottom screen? Using it to hold what the printer spits out dosen't count.

I don't think you can ever have too much info landing when the RVR is 600,600,600...

The reason CAL doesn't have HUDs is the same reason most CAL 73's only have one jumpseat. $$$

Stella 11-06-2007 10:44 AM

Our BBJ has the HGS model 4000 by Rockwell Collins as well. Alteon (Boeing) told us at training that it was allowing some operators to takeoff at a lower RVR.
It definitely does help during a low vis takeoff, especially when you lose an engine just after rotation. The autopilot does just fine for landing though, except for the lack of a rudder axis which the HUD also gives you (via your feet). I'm still not sold on it though. Maybe if it were on both sides?


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