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Old 12-02-2007, 01:45 PM
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I wrote this thread with the idea of expressing the enthusiasm that this kind of deals bring to campus. With my very limited fly experience I can't say if it is a good idea or not, but is definitely a moral booster to all college students here.

About the 8 guys going there, I can personally tell you that 4 of them (fellow CFIs) are very humble and professional people, and I think those reports of arrogance might be founded in the rejection that many people have about these kind of programs.

For those of you who criticized my English grammar, I can only tell you that I thank you for your opinions and that for future reference you do a better job as a leader by praising in public and criticizing in private; that is if you really want to be seem as a leader in this industry and not as another pure operator.

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ERAU Alum here,

And I agree with all of you. I ate the "Harvard of the Skies" thing up when I was younger. I am still paying off the loans and loans and loans I took out. One of the worst decisions I made in my career was ERAU. (my fault for not researching it more)

If I knew what I was getting into I would have cleaned up all the classes I could at a local community college and then transfered into a state school and pursued a degree in something non-aviation related. I have already scratched my eye once very badly once but luckily it healed. I would still be a pilot today but just 80k ahead of the game.

ERAU and other flight universities may change their approach with ab initio but until that happens to the masses there is not a reason to spend that much money on a certificate.

ERAU is a nice place but you can learn just as much at many other flight schools.

There is an attitude amongst most ERAU grads. An uppity better than thou attitude. It doesn't involve everyone but there is a reason that it is WIDELY perceived about ERAU. That mass ideology doesn't come from being the most humble pilots.
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Once working in Spirit as a ground instructor, this person demonstrated good leadership and knowledge and when there was a need for pilots they selected her for pilot training, she passed everything flawless and it was then when they decided to come back to ERAU and look for pilots this time.
It'll be great the first time she gets in the clouds. I can here it now, SWEEEET! With the right package anyone can get a job.
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I wrote this thread with the idea of expressing the enthusiasm that this kind of deals bring to campus. With my very limited fly experience I can't say if it is a good idea or not, but is definitely a moral buster to all college students here.

About the 8 guys going there, I can personally tell you that 4 of them (fellow CFIs) are very humble and professional people, and I think those reports of arrogance might be founded in the rejection that many people have about these kind of programs.

For those of you who criticized my English grammar, I can only tell you that I thank you for your opinions and that for future reference you do a better job as a leader by praising in public and criticizing in private; that is if you really want to be seem as a leader in this industry and not as another pure operator.
What kind of morals are they busting? If they're not careful they may have to come up with another scheme to boost morale.
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I'm glad that I was too dumb to be accepted to Riddle. 1.7 high school GPA here.
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:31 PM
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first u did'nt need to be a cfi and or military pilot to get to a regional now you don't need regional/military/135 to get to a major....I'm a Riddle grad surprised, I wish I can post more but I need to go back and continue writing checks out to Riddle for tuition.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:13 PM
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wow, maybe they will let community college interns sit in the right seat next
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wow, maybe they will let community college interns sit in the right seat next
...but only if it is an accredited community college or tech school, we wouldn't want to lower our standards too far! Peoples lives are at stake.

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I'd love to hear more about program requirements and how this program is the same or different then internships at other airlines (UAL/NWA/TWA and some others). I realize this isn't an internship, but am curious how interns at other airlines who were given preferential interviews and got hired, fared once they got the required minimums.

I'd also like to hear a word or two from Spirit pilots.

At Focus Air Cargo (747F), we had a couple pilots hired who didn't have "heavy" time, but were hired and did a respectable job.

I am in agreement, that there is not a pilot shortage so as to prompt bypassing the professional pilot pool and search for applicants at the university level. However, with that said, maybe after all the sarcastic remarks and other hoop-de-doo, maybe we can find out some facts about the program.

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