Slice

Your odds of getting hired without one are much worse. Usually the guys that do get hired without a degree have a ton of hours/experience. Don't expect to go high school, to regional, to major. It just doesn't work that way for most. Go to college, you'll want something to fall back on if your company tanks.

JoeyMeatballs

not only that, but its supposed to be the best time of your life. I went to Riddle for 1.5 years, hated it and came home, went to Rutgers. I lived at home never got to live the "college life". I used to go visit my buddies and in between the hundreds of hot drunk girls at frat parties and the freedom to do whatever you want, I was and still am so jealous, those guys had a blast. The biggest regret I have ever had was not living the "college life". My G/F went to Univ of Delaware, and the stories she has are insane. Long story short, Why would you want to give up 4 years of drinking, making great friends, and sleeping............whoops I mean meeting tons of girls, its life, when this time passes, it is gone forever, and you will never be able to get it back, College is a life experience flying is a job, and thats all it really is, just a job, don't live to be a pilot, be a pilot to live...........

mike734

Guys drop like flys after 60. I'm not too concerned. Besides, this will just delay the shortage 5 years but it will be worse when it really hits.

JoeyMeatballs

true true, I agree, and I hope

captjns

Negative on both. He started by slinging bags for a carrier then became a wrench turner, then got his tickets, then became a flight engineer, F/O with a 727 charter operation... upgraded to captain at same and became a check airman.

It appears that DAL is coming to their senses by seeking those airmen with experience in the cockpit rather than a 1,500 hour pilot with a four year degree.

It's a guarantee that if two guys with similar experience competing for a single slot and one has a four year degree and the other doesn't... you know who is going to get the job.

captjns

Excellent advise... Get a four year degree in an area other than aviation so the old bets can be hedged.

captjns

About 1/4 of the guys I used to fly cargo on the 727 with have gotten on with CAL... and the majority of those guys who flew for a supplemental carrier did not have the four year degree... they had the experience.

ashcroft79

I've been debating that and I may be completely wrong on this (wouldn't be the first time). Here's my thinking on it: the regionals are/almost scraping the bottom of the barrel for new hires by lowering required time, so if the majors keep hiring as they have been it seems likely that they will hit the bottom. By raising the retirement age they delay alot of the guys who would have retired from the majors which slows the guys who would leave the regionals. This gives five more years for guys/girls who are just grad high school or starting college to get their time and ratings. In five years everyone finally starts to retire, letting the higher paid r.j guys move up to the majors and off of the regional payroll and now the barrel is now full again of people getting out of flight school. Thereby stopping a pilot shortage for a time being. Kinda like plugging a drain and letting the water back up

Thread jack over.

Rocco

Pilot shortage at the "Majors"? Really. When most have thousands of applications on file I would hardly call that a shortage.

Rocco

I disagree...this is from the Delta app web site. If your friend got hired without meeting these requirements and someone else that meets them and did not get hired.....Can you say LAWSUIT.........

Looks like they even prefer Postgrad school.....Can you elaborate on when he was hired so my bud that got turned down can call his lawyer??
General Requirements

• At least 21 years of age
• Graduate of a four-year degree program from a college or university accredited by a recognized accrediting organization
  • Degrees obtained from a non-U.S. institution must be evaluated for equivalency to U.S. degrees by a member organization of the National Association of Credential Evaluation Services (NACES).
  • Postgraduate education will be given favorable consideration.