DILLA

I see that CO, UA and AA are all using the 757 on overseas routes, how long as this been going on? Do they have to reduce seating and baggage to make ETOPS mins? Are they slowly trying to phase out the 767?

Also, do the 757-200 and 757-300 share the same cockpit configuration/type rating? Does CO or NW use the 753 on overseas routes also?

NJGov

Yes, to answer your question about the 757-2 and -3 type. The 767 also has a common type between the 757 / 767.

I could be wrong, but I don't think any models are excluded.

And the 757 on overseas routes has been happening for quite some time now, on the scale of years, not exactly sure who came up with the idea though. The 767 is still a beast and can reach the farther places like Rome from East Coast US, so I don't think thats going anywhere in the too-near future.

Bri85

yes; my roommate just left for Argentina for an Aviation Gig flew out of Houston to Buenos Aires non-stop on a 767. I believe is a 9 hour flight- from EWR to Rome I think is 8.

BenFluth216

NW doesnt use their 753s on European routes but use them a lot on West Coast-Hawaii routes.

newKnow

NWA uses 757's-200's to Europe and in and out of Japan (KIX, NRT, NGO) to Saipan, Guam, Guangzhou, and Busan. 757-300 are used to go from the west coast to HNL and Maui. Same type for all (including the 767)

newKnow

757's go to Dusseldorf and Amsterdam now from Detroit and Hartford. They were used to go to Brussels but that was discontinued because we were "sick." Or that's what they say....

Bucking Bar

The 757 was designed for the last time Boeing thought fuel was going to be $3.00 a gallon. Then the launch customer (Eastern) went bankrupt the industry entered a down turn and gas went to $0.50, so airlines all held on to their 727's for another 10 years.

The 757 seems like the perfect airplane for right now. Does it still hold the title as the most efficient aircraft per seat mile?

Seems like 3*3 seating would be uncomfortable on a long trip, full. On the 767 with 2*3*2 the airplane would have to be pretty full to fill the middle seats, something like 83%.

Ottopilot

The 757's are very capable overseas aircraft. I'm been flying them for awhile over the North Atlantic. Comfort isn't an issue more than any other aircraft. Coach is coach no matter what plane you are on. The only comfortable long distance flight is in first class. I did 9+ hour flights in the 757-200. I think we are pushing them a little too far. The winglets added a little range too. Weight is not a problem. They are 180 minute ETOPS full or empty. I've never been weight restricted. I've flown them from Newark to Berlin, Barcelona, Stockholm, Lima, etc. Flying "to" is easy, it's coming back that is the problem due to winds. I have never diverted for fuel yet, but it does happen (Newark!). CAL doesn't use the 757-300 overseas. It likes them on the high-capacity routes to Florida,Vegas, LA, and some Carribean. The 767 has better range, but some markets are better served with the 757 to make money. My biggest complaint was no CPDLC/ADS on our 757's.

HalinTexas

ATA flies its 757-200's and -300's all over the world.

It's a great airplane. Very capable. Can't figure out why Boeing stopped making them so soon. Everyone wants them now, and there's nothing out there to take it's place. The 787's won't be out for a while and it'll be 8 years before anyone can get one right now.

JoeyMeatballs

I agree I see so many people complain, the 767 may have more room to stand up and move around, but how often does that really go on, its all mental