Independence Furloughs Flight Crews in Preparation for Possible Closure
01-03-2006, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fireman0174
Sad, but their business plan was flawed from day #1.
Could they have made it had fuel prices stayed low?
Good Luck to you Independence peeps.
01-03-2006, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
I don't have an opinion about there business plan, but I do have a question. Could they have made it had fuel prices stayed low?
JMHO.
01-03-2006, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
I don't have an opinion about there business plan, but I do have a question.
Could they have made it had fuel prices stayed low?
Good Luck to you Independence peeps.
Could they have made it had fuel prices stayed low?
Good Luck to you Independence peeps.
The company also lost all of their pricing power when they undercut the competition so much that they couldn't make money even with 100% loads.
01-03-2006, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
I think the plan had merit personally. However the implementation was very poor and fuel prices didn't help one bit. The way the company launched with 600 flights a day (all empty) and over frequency to many small cities burned through too much cash too quickly.
The company also lost all of their pricing power when they undercut the competition so much that they couldn't make money even with 100% loads.
The company also lost all of their pricing power when they undercut the competition so much that they couldn't make money even with 100% loads.
Poorly run company that once again screws its dedicated employees. I'll bet the management team is leaving with a bundle.
01-03-2006, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Your statement makes no sense whatsoever. The "Plan" they had didn't and couldn't work. Flying around passengers for less than your costs won't work and unfortunately their actions spurred other carriers to follow suit.
Poorly run company that once again screws its dedicated employees. I'll bet the management team is leaving with a bundle.
Poorly run company that once again screws its dedicated employees. I'll bet the management team is leaving with a bundle.
IDE as a whole was reactive rather than being proactive. They failed to set proper ticket prices. They failed to gain the initiative. They failed to market the airline effectively.
Hindsight is 20/20, but if the company had set realistic pricing (higher than it was, but lower than the majors), and effectively spent the money, I do think that the plan had merit and could have succeeded.
The business plan wasn't failed. The implementation and management was.
01-04-2006, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
The business plan wasn't failed. The implementation and management was.
They attempted to take an airplane, an RJ 50-seater, and use it in a market it was never designed for.
Unfortunetly, ACA was put in a very bad position because of UAL's chapter 11 filing.
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