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Old 01-06-2008, 11:30 AM
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Would NWA ever consider flying there own 70 seat aircraft? 70-100 seat with a little lower pay than the DC-9 would not be a bad place to start for a new hire.
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Old 01-06-2008, 11:33 AM
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Would NWA ever consider flying there own 70 seat aircraft? 70-100 seat with a little lower pay than the DC-9 would not be a bad place to start for a new hire.
Well, the DC-9 is kinda considered their 100 seat plane, and scope limits the RJs to 76 seats I think. There is really no in between airplane, and with the current pay on the DC-9, I doubt NWA guys would be willing to go any lower regardless of how many seats the airplane has.
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Do you think if the majors would take back the smaller aircraft now they would have more leverage to get higher pay in the future.(Management can't go to the lowest bidder and more pilots in the union.)
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Do you think if the majors would take back the smaller aircraft now they would have more leverage to get higher pay in the future.(Management can't go to the lowest bidder and more pilots in the union.)
I hope so, but this industry has been damaged badly from when the first mainline pilots were too good to fly RJ's. I think the industry is better off to start shedding RJ's. That doesn't mean eliminating them.
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Would NWA ever consider flying there own 70 seat aircraft? 70-100 seat with a little lower pay than the DC-9 would not be a bad place to start for a new hire.
Check the NWA contract.
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"but this industry has been damaged badly from when the first mainline pilots were too good to fly RJ's."

I don't believe that is accurate. As I recall, the major pilots weren't interested in flying metros, Dash 8's, and Saabs. The cat got out of the bag then, and the commuters grew into the RJ's. I believe if the 70 seat RJ came out 20 years ago, the unions would have demanded to keep the flying in house and things wouldn't be where they are today.

When I see old major pilots blamed for the current state of affairs, I think back to when it was happening, and can say I think nobody saw the writing on the wall.
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"but this industry has been damaged badly from when the first mainline pilots were too good to fly RJ's."

I don't believe that is accurate. As I recall, the major pilots weren't interested in flying metros, Dash 8's, and Saabs. The cat got out of the bag then, and the commuters grew into the RJ's. I believe if the 70 seat RJ came out 20 years ago, the unions would have demanded to keep the flying in house and things wouldn't be where they are today.

When I see old major pilots blamed for the current state of affairs, I think back to when it was happening, and can say I think nobody saw the writing on the wall.
You've nailed it, the big boys wanted the jet flying but the majors didn't want the "cost" of having their own pilots doing the flying. To get their pilots to sign off on scope they promised more big jet flying (example 1 mainline for 3 RJ's) in return for allowing the regionals to fly the RJ's. In retrospect it was probably a mistake to allow the camel's nose under the tent......
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Well, the DC-9 is kinda considered their 100 seat plane, and scope limits the RJs to 76 seats I think. There is really no in between airplane, and with the current pay on the DC-9, I doubt NWA guys would be willing to go any lower regardless of how many seats the airplane has.
I believe on a previous thread I saw a photo of a regional CRJ-900 painted in NWA colors. How does NWA get around the scope clause to allow regionals to fly that aircraft for them?
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I believe on a previous thread I saw a photo of a regional CRJ-900 painted in NWA colors. How does NWA get around the scope clause to allow regionals to fly that aircraft for them?
The answer is the same way as Delta. The planes are configured with a First Class section and a little more leg room in coach so they only have 76 seats installed.
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It would sure take some big ones for a major pilot group to step up and take back the 70 seaters. It would most likely help all of the pilots in the industry in the long run, but most of us tend to cover our own *** today without thinking about next year.
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