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Bloodhound 01-12-2008 05:01 PM

DAL and UAL app question
 
I'd like to hear some opinions, more like speculation, regarding the UAL and DAL apps. I use an online logbook that syncs to our scheduling program - so it's really easy to keep up with. After every trip or every other trip, I just log on and it downloads the info. Unfortunately, it doesn't log Night, Actual, or Landings - obviously, the program doesn't know that info. Anyway, for no good reason, I stopped manually adding that stuff when I got rid of the "little red book." My question is this... do you think an abnormally low logged Actual, Approaches, or Night number raises any flags?

On the DAL app. it asks for Night, Actual, and Approaches; where as the UAL only asks for Actual. Well, I've got 6100 total but only 420 IMC and 820 Night logged. I've got a lot more of both in actuality but I don't have it logged. Do you think the recruiters even notice or care? SWA didn't even notice (not that I know of) and the CAL ACP didn't either. Any thoughts?

hotelmode 01-12-2008 06:10 PM

Can you go through the thousands of legs and add .4 or 1.0 of actual here and there? It's questionable ethically, but it wouldn't be too far from the truth...

SabreDriver 01-12-2008 06:40 PM

If you didn't log it, then you didn't fly it.:D If you logged it, then you must have flown it :rolleyes: Shouldn't take too long to fix it, but if they don't bring it up, I wouldn't either.

In half a dozen interviews, only one ever cross checked ANYTHING in my logbook, SWA. The couple numbers they checked matched, no need to dig any farther. If they find a mistake you are in deep caca. Might yield a "thanks for coming by." Personally I don't think thay care so long as you are "current" as of the date of the interview, after that, all bets are off.

Bigger question might be, how does your company ensure that you stay instrument current if you never log any IMC or approaches?

hotelmode 01-12-2008 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by SabreDriver (Post 298512)
how does your company ensure that you stay instrument current if you never log any IMC or approaches?

PC's make you current, do LOFTs? You do one of those every 6 months for 121.

Bloodhound 01-12-2008 07:42 PM

Yeah, I thought about adding it but didn't and rationalized it by thinking it would be dishonest. I'm not worried about someone asking me in an interview but I wonder if it raises an flags in the online app and they skip right over me.

volasl 01-13-2008 06:05 AM

Bloodhound are times are similiar except i had about 1000 night. Wasnt an issue for me

TrailRunner 01-14-2008 05:48 AM

I don't really think the actual time matters that much as the type of flying you were doing. Also would definately agree that it's not a good idea to go back through your logbook and try to "normalize" it. Just not worth the risk. I have a similar situation where I flew a lot of actual in the Pacific NW early in my career and undercut it in my logbook to not make it appear inflated (not that smart in hindsight). FWIW, I recently interviewed and was offered the job at Delta, have almost 9000TT with only about 400 actual logged. One of the retired captains did thumb through my logbooks during the panel but never asked any questions about it.


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