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dba74 01-27-2008 05:14 PM

AirlineApps
 
Hey all,

In filling out the flight time portion of airlineapps, they want to know the aircraft category of planes flown i.e. normal, transport, restricted, etc.
While most of them are easy to figure out, some I'm not sure of like Stearman, Aeronca Champ, Cessna 195 and others. Does anyone know an easy resource to obtain aircraft categories for a given make and model? I've spent a good deal of time to no avail.

Thanks very much

showboats 01-28-2008 06:13 AM

Felt like doing a little research for you (yep, I am that bored sitting here in the FBO crew lounge!). Below is the link to the FAA's website that will allow you to search aircraft in several ways to determine the aircraft category and a plethora of other information about said aircraft. The easiest way I found to determine category is to do and N-number search and then scroll down to the category listed for that N-number. Hope this helps.


http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/

dba74 01-28-2008 10:00 AM

Thanks very much showboats. That worked like a charm. Interestingly the cessna 150 & 152 are utility category which isn't even an option on the pull-down menu, so I guess I'll put "normal" category. It was also interesting to see what's happened to some of the planes I've flown in the past i.e. exported to Israel or Phillipines or even destroyed.

Thanks again

showboats 01-28-2008 06:38 PM

Glad it helped.

Yeah...the first plane I searched from my instructing days was listed as destroyed. I'm pretty sure a few of my students' landings (maybe even of few of my own) probably contributed to that factor! Hopefully, nobody was really hurt.

cubflyer 01-28-2008 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by dba74 (Post 308531)
Hey all,

In filling out the flight time portion of airlineapps, they want to know the aircraft category of planes flown i.e. normal, transport, restricted, etc.
While most of them are easy to figure out, some I'm not sure of like Stearman, Aeronca Champ, Cessna 195 and others. Does anyone know an easy resource to obtain aircraft categories for a given make and model? I've spent a good deal of time to no avail.

Thanks very much

Almost all early model aircraft, like the ones you specified, are normal or utility. Restricted category aircraft are most always production built but modified for other uses (Agriculture, Aerial Photos, etc.). The safe bet is to search the tail number in the FAA registry, but barring any problems, you would be safe in listing it as normal category......

If you want to ensure exactness, give your local FSDO a call and speak with an Airworthiness Inspector. They have a list on file that they use to issue Airworthiness Certificates that can aide in identifying the category.

BalloonChaser 01-29-2008 06:54 AM

:eek: Based on this thread, I have a question? - In filling out the Airline Apps, does anyone have advice on logging "early" aircraft? On my app, I grouped all my single engine time together (anyone else take this approach?) and then separated ALL of the multi-engine time by aircraft. With thousands of hours is it really necessary to break out a Cessna 172 from a Mooney from a Piper Arrow when it's all less that 50% of my flying and almost 10 years ago! I go interview at DAL beginning of Feb. Rather spend that time studying ROT's and Theory vs. counting out my single engine time. Thoughts?

bcrosier 01-29-2008 07:34 AM

I took that approach. I see little value in listing out the variety of SEL's I flew 15+ years ago (some only once or twice). I have 7000+ hours, 5500+ jet, and 3800 some odd 121 and heavy.

That said, I haven't been called yet (However, my application has been on file for a few weeks).

Anyone else's thoughts?

MoonShot 01-29-2008 07:38 AM

I broke it down into each aircraft type flown. I have a computer log though so it didn't take long to do the breakdown.

Bluto 01-29-2008 07:45 AM

I broke it down by what I considered similar types. For example, single engine fixed tricycle gear, tailwheel, light twin, etc. I don't think it's a big deal one way or the other, just make sure your numbers are accurate for however you choose to organize them.

Marcupial 01-29-2008 07:51 AM

Is this the Bluto from Daleville FSI?

Bluto 01-29-2008 10:20 AM

Nope, sorry. I can't even tell you what state, province, region, or hemisphere this "Daleville" is in. Good luck tracking down your friend, though.

BalloonChaser 01-29-2008 05:26 PM

Thanks for the input. I keep paper logbooks, so I think I'll just keep my SEL in a single line. I have all my multi broken down and that's all I've done for the last decade. Cheers

dba74 02-01-2008 08:22 AM

I've come across another snag. Under simulator, they want PIC, SIC, FE, dual received, or instruction given. It is my understanding that sim only could fall under the last two, and usually not even then, i.e. PIC/SIC/FE are only for AIRPLANES I thought, and on a sim checkride you're not really receiving dual, just logging SIM and TOTAL TIME. Again, not a big deal but I'm curious on what others have done

Thanks

MoonShot 02-01-2008 08:39 AM

Because I haven't logged sim time as flight time (or total etc...) I just went through and looked at what position I was training for at the time and put either PIC or SIC on airlineapps based on what seat I was sitting in during the training process.


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