Originally Posted by Bigflya (Post 342784)

Makes me want to go to the FFDO program and cap a few punks. If word on the street was that some pilots are packin then they may leave all alone.

Originally Posted by scrapdog (Post 342731)

I'm all about joking around, but that's a pretty cheap shot and extremely sophmoric. The poor kid was beaten and I can assure you that if that circumstance happened at CAL training, CAL would certainly take care of him - insurance benefits or not.

Insurance benefits for the first six months - CAL 0 / UAL 1

Being at an airline with documented growth, new airplanes over the next few years, making money AS OPPOSED to bleeding money profusely, Forbes #1 airline the past 5 years straight, semi-decent quality customer service, and better pay rates (not that either are great) - CAL 1 / UAL 0

I'll take the second bullet anyday.

Originally Posted by Bigflya (Post 342784)

Makes me want to go to the FFDO program and cap a few punks. If word on the street was that some pilots are packin then they may leave all alone.

Originally Posted by iflyjets4food (Post 343002)

If word on the street was that some pilots were packin, the muggers will come packin as well, and some will be shot and killed as opposed to given cuts and bruises.

Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 342983)

do you mean like the way CAL treated the jumpseater who caught fire on the md80 a few years back. he had 3rd degree burns on his shoulder and CAL said he didn't pay for his seat so he isn't a passenger and doesn't have the same rights. (we're not paying) yep they really took care of him, CAL management is a real class act :rolleyes:.

Originally Posted by Low & Slow (Post 342586)

Just think, for $26K a year you too can pay for your own hotel while in training and "roll the dice". It's amazing to see good pilots and good people apply at this crumbling house of cards. UA invests in things, not people.....and it shows.

You guys be careful out there.

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To: United Pilots

From: Captain Steve Wallach, Chairman, United MEC

Re: Security Incident Around Training Center

On Thursday evening, one of our new hire pilots was brutally assaulted by three men on the west side of Quebec Street across from TK. He was returning from that day's training when he was beaten and robbed. The pilot may have been spared further harm when a driver of an approaching automobile pulled over to assist him.

The pilot, who suffered a broken jaw and injuries to his eyes, is recuperating at home and the company is keeping him on pay status until he is able to return to training.

United pilots in training staying at the Doubletree Hotel on Quebec Street are advised to NOT go out alone at night to the restaurant area just north of TK. I also urge you to become aware of the security situation in the neighborhood around TK.

For more information regarding personal security issues at and around the training center, we urge you to contact MEC Training Committee

Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 342911)

The sad part is, it's actually better than what it used to be. Right before Stapleton closed a friend of my Dad's was leaving the employee lot. It used to be just north of the TK before they expanded it. Anyway, he heads toward Quebec and three "youths" in a car ran a red light and T-boned his car. He was pretty stunned from the impact. To top it off, the three "youths" got out of the car and proceeded to beat the crap out of him, then drove off. Bad enough that he had to have his jaw wired.

It was also pretty common to have "youths" throwing rocks at the TK windows at night. When I was a kid, my dad showed me some bullet holes that had been left there one night. Who knows, maybe there were left over from the strike.

Originally Posted by scrapdog (Post 342731)

Being at an airline with documented growth, new airplanes over the next few years, making money AS OPPOSED to bleeding money profusely, Forbes #1 airline the past 5 years straight, semi-decent quality customer service, and better pay rates (not that either are great) - CAL 1 / UAL 0

I'll take the second bullet anyday.

Originally Posted by jsled (Post 343019)

Good God, just how many times were you turned down at UAL? Always harping on them. SWA pilots and F/A's stay at that same hotel along with many other major airline crews. It is a tragic event, lets not turn it into fuel for your personal vindetta. Jeees.

Originally Posted by EMB120IP (Post 342616)

It's a pretty rough area down there. It's just north of Martin Luther King, Jr. BLVD, which hasn't always been the nicer side of town. The area where the hotels isn't bad, but a block south you gotta watch yourself.